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Autism

Postby reach4thestars86 » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:54 pm

My kids were taken from CPS in Sept. Mainly because I was trying to protect my son whom has Autism. oK....need comments!

The main staple in the report or what they are going to try to focus on in court is that I "neglected" my kids by locking them in the room during naptime/bedtime. During the investigation, I repeatedly told cps that I was doing it to protect my son from "wondering" during the night. They didn't care. They said it was a "parenting issue" when I told them it was because I was trying to keep my son safe. I tried the gate thing. Didn't work. He kept pushing the gate down or hoping over it. I tried the door safety lock handle thing. Didn't work. He knew how to push it down to where it would pop off and fall on the floor. I looked on MANY autism websites where it stated to "lock" the bedroom door during bedtime periods to ensure they wouldn't "wonder" and to protect them from outside eliments (Ie. unlocking the front door and running outside, getting in the bathtub and filling it up with water (like he previously did), etc). Yet no one from cps listened or even cared. I was "neglecting" my kids because no only did I "lock the door" to keep him safe but my daughter was in there with him and they are on the side where "you know your son is agressive in his behaviors yet they are in their together which put her in harms way". wrong. I told them that my daughter or my son was always in a crib to ensure he wouldn't harm her in anyway while the door was closed. Did they care? No. Did they listen? No.

So, aside from all the little things they added to the report to make it look somewhat bad (like they always do so the judge will agree to take the kids from custody), the "locked door" is what Im presuming, will be the main focal point in court.

Now. Im not the only who knows that I was in no wrong in doing what I did. I tried all of the other ways to keep him safe (gate, safety lock on door handle) but once those didn't work I had to result in locking the door while he was sleeping so he wouldn't "wonder" during the night and get badly hurt or run out the front door. A lot of websites and professionals will agree with me.

So..if I can bring an Autism Specialist or Autism Therapist to court to state that, that i was in no wrong and that is often suggested from parents with kids who have Autism...how much weight will that have in court? Since its not just "me" saying it, its a professional coming in and stating it as well? (aside from that I have a whole list of people read to be subpeaned when neccessary)

Another concern.

Im a single mom. My son (who has Autism) was placed with his dad (who initially made the false cps report) only because of the "biological" factor alone. However, he was never envolved! He never cared! Never paid child support!! He chose his gf over his son and never was envolved!!! I was the only person taking care of my son, loving him, providing for him, and fighting/advocating for him to give him the services and resources he needs to have the best outcome in life! He went through agencies, therapists, and had assessments done for years until he finally got a diagnosis! I DID THAT! not his dad. Im the one who made that available to my son because he deserves the best possible outcome in life (he is 3). So, knowing the cps worker is going to "request" to the judge to give him full custody (this judge also has 20yrs exp as a family law lawyer), how can I convince the judge to over turn that request and have my son remain in my custody (sole legal and physical) (temp. in custody because cps took them) but overall, to have the judge deny the request?? Him never being envolved, never paying child support, and never caring about his son should have some weight! Even more so that he filed the cps report in the beginning because he didn't want to go to jail for being in contempt. of non payment of child support!! Seriously..

comments please!!!

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Re: Autism

Postby KDus » Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:09 pm

Same kinda story here.
Our Autistic daughter scripts and has gotten us CPS attention in the past. We had a nephew with "sensory registration" problems. Long story short, he would crap and pee on the floor as an act of defiance. So, his "time-outs" were in the bathroom, because it is easier to clean. That got us in trouble.

So, I'm taking a parenting as part of the "plan" and we have to read a book called 1,2,3 magic. What do you know? They say you should put kids in the bathroom for a time out if they crap on the floor.
What do you know, the book says lock the kid in their room if they won't stay in there.
What do you know, the book says time outs should be one minute per year of age.

I have to take a class to learn how to do exactly what we were doing that got us in trouble with CPS.

I believe you can make an allegation of your own. The father of my autistic (step)daughter just submitted to "No Provision for Support" because he couldn't explain where he was for 2-1/2 years.

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Re: Autism

Postby LindaJM » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:46 pm

I would photocopy those pages from the parenting class book and submit them to the judge with a legal declaration. Attach the photocopies as "exhibits". Highlight the relevant part in yellow!

LOL... can't believe their own recommended parenting class book tells you to do the things they consider "child abuse". Just goes to show how hypocritical this CPS system is!
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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:56 pm

Have a son with autistic spectum who has gotton extremely aggressive in nature.. he has been verbally attacking his father and becoming pshyical with his other siblings.. 3 weeks ago her cursed at his father and attacked him so as a result of this my husband restrained him and he fell leaving a little red mark on his forhead.. my son when to school and the teachers seen the red mark and asked my son what happened and my son said my daddy hold me tight and i couldnt breath. so they called ACS and now we are being investergated for this incident.. tommorrow my husband and I will be sitting and meeting with the ACS worker at a family team meeting to determine what they are going to do with this case I guess. right now all of my children are still in my care no one has been remove yet but my husband and i are scared becasue we have never been through something like this.. If anyone has any infomation on what a family team meeting is and what it consist of please let me know by replying to my post. I need to know if I need to get a lawyer for my defense or should i just show up to this meeting. because i have read you dont have to attend this meeting but if i dont ACS can pursue my family in court.. I have also read by taking these services and holding the meeting I'm actually admitting that my husband and I was abusive and then my case would be indicated and it will show on my record as a crimminal offense.. somebody anybody please if you can assist me i would truly appreaite it.. Thank You in advance

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Re: Autism

Postby LindaJM » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:44 pm

Hello... this answer is probably coming too late for your family team meeting. How did it go, and what did you decide to do?

Yes, it is necessary to get a lawyer as soon as possible when CPS contacts a family.
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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:44 am

Well I went to the Family confrence meeting and they discussed services with me and my husband.. I explained to her with all neccersary documents that i have been running and that my child in around mandated reported almost 90 % of the time.. I explained that my child is in service and he also attend a special school showed them more documents.. I honestly thing the services and what my son was into was a little overwelhelming for the supervisor and the ACS worker.. she explained to me that the service are not court mandatoy however she said it will be a helpful thing to get to help him. I thought they want my husband a i to go to a parenting class and take anger management.. in the begiging it was headed there until the paper work was persented.. my case started in december right before the kids went on christmas break and this lady hasn't call me or show up but once a month.. the only thing i have a problem with is that she will say she coming one time and show up maybe 3 day later.. i guess becasue they dont have anything they are still trying to build a case.. but you cant get nothing if there is nothing there..i think she is a little intimadated by me in the way i persent myself but dont know just how much i now but one thing i can tell you she know i know my rights becasue she askes can she enter into my house she dont just walk around my house without regaurd she do give me that respect only becasue i dont play with any of them. well it moving into the second month and still they are digging this is sicken that they go so hard just to remove kids.. all doctor and theapist my kid see's have nothing bad to say so she tells me she dont see this as a indicated case but she still have to run this past her supervor first but just in case i have already contacted a lawyer who is willing to take my case.. but today when she visited the house she said that my son school told her that his behavior has changed and ask me did i know about this and i told her that his teacher hasnt call me but i will get to the bottom of this.. i know when things get too much for the school they will call me and inform me about his behavior but i guess this was all out of coversation and she brought it to me like she has a problem with my son but i will notify the school to see what was said and go from there. but thanks again for your assistant.. hopefully this case will be coming to a close real soon. but so far so go i pray

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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:44 am

Well I went to the Family confrence meeting and they discussed services with me and my husband.. I explained to her with all neccersary documents that i have been running and that my child in around mandated reported almost 90 % of the time.. I explained that my child is in service and he also attend a special school showed them more documents.. I honestly thing the services and what my son was into was a little overwelhelming for the supervisor and the ACS worker.. she explained to me that the service are not court mandatoy however she said it will be a helpful thing to get to help him. I thought they want my husband a i to go to a parenting class and take anger management.. in the begiging it was headed there until the paper work was persented.. my case started in december right before the kids went on christmas break and this lady hasn't call me or show up but once a month.. the only thing i have a problem with is that she will say she coming one time and show up maybe 3 day later.. i guess becasue they dont have anything they are still trying to build a case.. but you cant get nothing if there is nothing there..i think she is a little intimadated by me in the way i persent myself but dont know just how much i now but one thing i can tell you she know i know my rights becasue she askes can she enter into my house she dont just walk around my house without regaurd she do give me that respect only becasue i dont play with any of them. well it moving into the second month and still they are digging this is sicken that they go so hard just to remove kids.. all doctor and theapist my kid see's have nothing bad to say so she tells me she dont see this as a indicated case but she still have to run this past her supervor first but just in case i have already contacted a lawyer who is willing to take my case.. but today when she visited the house she said that my son school told her that his behavior has changed and ask me did i know about this and i told her that his teacher hasnt call me but i will get to the bottom of this.. i know when things get too much for the school they will call me and inform me about his behavior but i guess this was all out of coversation and she brought it to me like she has a problem with my son but i will notify the school to see what was said and go from there. but thanks again for your assistant.. hopefully this case will be coming to a close real soon. but so far so go i pray

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Re: Autism

Postby MaggieC » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:55 pm

I am in NYC. I am not an attorney but I do work in the legal system. Please be very very cautious of ACS and their team meetings.

I need to re-read your posts to get a better understanding of what is going on BUT I urge you to contact the Brookloyn Family Defense Project (even if you are not in Brooklyn-they may be able to help to steer you to a group in your borough).

Tread very very cautiously with ACS.

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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:28 am

ok Thanks Maggie on any information you can provide for the situation

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Re: Autism

Postby MaggieC » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:36 pm

I am sending a private message to you

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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:52 pm

Maggie I send you a private letter... Thanks again

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Re: Autism

Postby muffins32 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:19 am

Maggie I need to talk to you about some new information that came about.. if you dont mind at your earliest convenience can you please give me a call.. I believe you still have my number.. if you have a feel moment you can contact me tonight if it is ok with you .. thank you for your help reguarding this situation muffins..


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