If nobody objects to this?

[Anonymous]

I would like to see if ALL of the CPS employees are still snooping,

And ask all of them how can you stand doing a job Hitler started,if you don't believe that Hitler started let me show you ok.

CPS (Child Protective Services) has become the Gestapo arm of the women's movement.
... The "Nazi" reign in Hitler's Germany featured the Hitler Youth. ...


We now live in a society where CPS takes children from their parents, where police
... Let me quote Adolf Hitler. Everyone tells me you can't quote Hitler, ...


Child protective services (CPS) in 45 States reported 32 deaths that ... At least
everyone knew where Hitler stood. But the current system is sly and ..

I hope you like being a memember of HItlers Army he is dead and gone...unless he is alive and you all were taught by him..bring him on out.

I am telling you how it is and showing you the proof of who you are actuallu working for.

Truth hurts don't it...don't like people like me telling you how we feel them stop working for the wrong one and work for the right one.

[Dan Sullivan]

How 'bout we educate the CPS workers so they know what the real truth is?

For example; a spiral fracture is associated in most instances
with inflicted injury.

Yet a study in England demonstrated that unresolved/non-accidental spiral fractures represented approx 10% of the cases... far from the "in most instances."

http://www.btinternet.com/~c.s.paterson/new_lj.doc

Diagnosis of 128 patients referred for the diagnosis of unexplained
fractures

Osteogenesis imperfecta 33
Temporary brittle bone disease 65
Vitamin D deficiency rickets 5
Scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) 1
Hypophosphatasia* 1
Accidental injury 9
Unresolved/non-accidental injury 14
Total 128

* Hypophosphatasia is an uncommon heritable disorder of bone.

Let the CPS caseworkers read and learn.

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[Anonymous]

your right CPS/DCS doesn't care what is going on,they care only about themselves...and of course the money they are getting.

But soner or later they will loose.They even stated they have been involved in my family for years now whichis bull sh** they have not been involved with my family till last year.Now they have ben involved with my ex and his wife for years.The public pretender told me this,about the CPS worker telling him they have been involved with my family..They need to get their facts straight or we will get their facts straight for themWE SHALL PREVAIL THESE NAZIS

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[blue]

angel1970, when you can logically show an argument for a connection between Hitler and CPS, you may get more responses from people who work for the agencies. The link you posted has absolutely nothing to do with CPS, but with George Bush's campaign. Bush is not my president and is not supportive of proper CPS reform.

Some of the sentences in your original post are not complete and I have no idea what you are saying. You have not shown any proof. I hate to be the one to say this, but the reason you don't get responses from CPS on things like this is because many of your rants are illogical and poorly written. I'm sorry you've had CPS trouble but unless you begin to express yourself better, most people are not going to take you very seriously.

I'm sure you'll get angry when you read this, but I hope after you lash out at me (as you and others certainly will), you will take time to think about it and realize that if the things you write were more clearly expressed, with proper spelling and grammar and all, you would be taken more seriously and your credibility would increase.

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[Anonymous]

I am sorry if i didn't make sense,I am trying to say that CPS was started by Hitler and that we must live in a world where Hitler is still in control of certain people.And that people like me need to bring this Hitler people down and take back what belongs to us.I worship god not Hitler or anybody else.And I have a very good verbal mouth,and just because i didn't graduate from high school inorder to get married against my wishes but to have my son,I can read and i can write and know just how to get my point across.I have held my toungue for 10 years because of a man that wouldn't le me voice my opinion or have a say so about anything.But,i will be damned if someone that doesn't know me from eve s going to tell me i amnot making sense.I make perfect sense to people that know me.

I will explain just a little to how i can prove that these people are bias and being unfair...

1. Commissioner knows ex husband and his wife from a previous case.
2. GAl/DCS supervisior are coaxed by step mom.
3. My children were placed in a home where there have children removed and a case still open with DCS/CPS

now do you understand this better.


If anybody would like to down grade me some more come into the chat room Tech created and i will be more than happy to hear some more reasons why i don't make sense.

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[Anonymous]

Thanks JamesStein,i am just telling the truth,people can bash me down grade me and be little me but don't tell me i am not mamking sense.it only matters to us people that know for a fact what the hellis going on,i don't give a riff if he doesn't understand what i am saying.He either is a worker hisself or he agrees with these people.

I just tell it as i know it is happening.Thanks again i appreciate that.

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[Anonymous]

Oh my god so he is one of the people i was warned about?

He can take his opinion and shove it,he can go complain to hitler like you said his satanic cult.And he can at least be polite and not tell people that they are not makin sense.And be polite to us.And Blue you can continue to do the work of the nazi's

And as i said before here is the proof that you work for a nazi company.

With its anti-male and anti-family agenda, CPS has become an out of control socialist
... The "Nazi" reign in Hitler's Germany featured the Hitler Youth.

... which freed Hitler to. attack Poland and Western Europe, and which all CPs sup-
... tion and downgrading of civil rights work following Hitler’s ...


We now live in a society where CPS takes children from their parents, where police
... Let me quote Adolf Hitler. Everyone tells me you can't quote Hitler,

so see you all are Hitler and i can't condone the nazi's taking control of our children.

So take your job abd enjoy while you can cause there are more of us than you people.

Why don't you just do a google for Hitler and CPS and see what you come up with.

and like stein aid act your age.

[sedwards]

see here blue goes again comes in here and get everyone in a uproar . And guess what i cant typpe thet good and some of my words are spelled wrong . But anyone that can sleep at night knowing that they are placing children where they are being beaten and molested as my children were . Has no heart at all . And that goes for all cps dcf whoever you are you are child theives and you know it .. What would you like to be compared to God. I dont think so .. Do you have children ?? what if i came and took them and beat them and molested them ..... Hhmm what would you compare me to .Ok if you dont have kids im sure you have parents what if someone held them hostage and beat them You would like them right . People get upset if you hurt a animal but we cant get mad at what you are doing to our children . Well guess what you arent gonna change how none of us feel . And we dont like dcf cps anyone that calls themselves helping then injures us and our families . there are websites for you . But apparently this is isnt the one . We have a fight for our children going on and our grandchildren . And you nor anyone can change that . Until it stops and one day it will . We dont know how but one day it will end .Because you can bet we wont give up .

[Anonymous]

you go seward i am behind you and i am sure the others are too.tell it as you see it.

And for you cps wreckers read this

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... unofficial

[blue]

angel, you may get your point across very well to people who know you or when you communicate verbally with people, but this post and the letters you post sometimes are directed toward people who don't know you. The only reason I responded was because your post was directed to DCF employees.

The quotes in the original post were from a 2002 essay that is extremely anti-women as well as racist and homophobic. The author labeled sexual harassment laws and the Violence Against Women Act "constitutional aberrations". He also claims the right to use a horrible, hateful racist term to describe white males: "When a feminist says "man", society hears 'manigger.'" Angel, I am surprised that you, someone who has suffered because of a man, would post words from the man who wrote that article. Is that really who you want to be associated with? You claim CPS harms children, then align yourself with someone who advocates harming women? It is so shocking that I'm certain you didn't read the other hateful parts, but only those relating to CPS, because I know you wouldn't agree with some things he said. That's the harm in quoting just a tiny phrase, though, because you weren't able to pick up on the agenda or the perspective of the person saying those words.

Here's the link to that article, in case any of you are interested: http://www.fathers.bc.ca/whither_manhood.htm

In my earlier post, I never disrespected anyone at all, only said the original post wasn't clear because of the incomplete sentences and the link that didn't support what she was saying. It's funny that someone asked me to act my age and treat people with respect. I am not the DCF workers who come here and post things like "I hope you never get your kids back" or other awful things like that. I have not been disrespectful in a single post on this site. I have been personally attacked several times and have never responded with disrespect. I have never treated any of you negatively and I never will.

[rockdundee]

You claim CPS harms children, then align yourself with someone who advocates harming women?

It is so shocking that I'm certain you didn't read the other hateful parts, but only those relating to CPS, because I know you wouldn't agree with some things he said.

That's the harm in quoting just a tiny phrase, though, because you weren't able to pick up on the agenda or the perspective of the person saying those words.

I am not the DCF workers who come here and post things like "I hope you never get your kids back" or other awful things like that. I have not been disrespectful in a single post on this site. I have been personally attacked several times and have never responded with disrespect. I have never treated any of you negatively and I never will.

Just a couple of things. Nowhere in this article did the author advocate harming women, I read it, and although there are a few things said in it that I don't agree with, there are some that I do. Like the demonization of the american male as "potential batterers and rapists." Here are a few more that I agree with...in the authors own words.

Divorced dads have fought with all of their might to retain a place in their children's lives in individual court venues. But they have been pummeled by two intimidating, emasculating lessons: 1.) Men are criminally suspect in the eyes of the law in a feminized society. 2.) The power of the State to crush a man's will and future is unlimited and unconstrained once unleashed

Male legislators are even more than passive in their acquiescence to the Big Lie. They have learned that the Feminihilists will tar and feather them as harassers should they not toe the line. They've also learned that just one Feminihilist can crush them with the power of thousands, given carte blanche media access.

In combat, men are conjoined in the mission's objective. On the job, men in the protection professions are conjoined in the collective plebiscite. But in today's society, men's collective energies are fragmented. They have no positively defined cultural role in a PC society to collectively guide and enjoin their efforts. Instead of being the traditional familial source of protection and moral guidance and unity, men have been coerced into the disgraceful posture of defending against their perceived potential "dark side." Acting collectively can be as dangerous for the male group as for the individual legislator. When the Promise Keepers acted collectively in their march on Washington D.C., the cacophonous vilification by the Feminihilists and their media cohort was ear rending.

The Big Lie has so contaminated the social perception of men, and so threatened the sexual relationship between men and women, that men have become emasculated. Lest they be called "Deadbeats", men pay usurious rates of child support that have been aptly termed de facto alimony. Lest they be called "batterers", men are cloaking themselves in the soft-spoken, milquetoast persona of the sensitive man. Lest they be called "homophobic", men are conceding their children to the sexual aberrations of the sodomy lobby. And lest they be called "patriarchal" men are collectively permitting "family" courts to rescind their constitutionally guaranteed parental rights, substituted with a court order redistributing their income to the person whose goal is to kidnap their children.


"Parental rights protect the interests of parents and children in a relationship that is natural and independent of the existence of a state; ...Critically for doctrinal purposes, this is the interpretation the Supreme Court appears to accept in holding that '[i]t is cardinal with us that the custody, care and nurture of the child reside first in the parents, whose primary function and freedom include preparation for obligations the state can neither supply nor hinder.' ... These rights are typically and systematically suspended or denied in divorce proceedings." - Parental Rights and Due Process

Prior to July 1868, and the ratification of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution, the southern states had restricted voting rights to blacks and relegated black men to the status of a 3/5ths person in determining congressional representation. Prior to that, the 13th Amendment abolished slavery or involuntary servitude, guaranteed due process, and prevented the denial of equal protection under the law. It was the cause of the civil rights movement of the sixties and beyond that blacks should realize the full rights and benefits of those amendments.
Simultaneously, the feminihilists succeeded in eliminating those same constitutional guarantees when dads are sued for no-fault divorce. Divorce courts have become "administrative" procedures, foregoing the due process clause. And when dads are stripped of their parenthood, they are clearly less than a 3/5ths person ... they are a 1/7th person, or less in standard visitation terms - something on the order of a distant cousin, or programmable toaster. In yet another flagrant constitutional abeyance, or "child support enforcement", these maniggers are reduced to involuntary servitude and threatened with debtor's prison should they fail to tote dat bale. Divorced dads have been made sharecropper parents.

CPS (Child Protective Services) has become the Gestapo arm of the women's movement. With its anti-male and anti-family agenda, CPS has become an out of control socialist agency dedicated to removing America's children to the foster-care commune where they may languish for years before being unleashed on society. If properly asked, and sometimes with the unwarranted insistence of the courts, DHHS and CPS will provide the divorcing mother an attorney, and if deemed necessary, a legion of social workers and psychologists to assist the mother in evicting dad ... and keeping him out.

The author is obviously very anti-femenist, but makes some very valid points.

As for VAWA, this legislation as it is currently written is unconstitutional. It discriminates on the basis of gender. Providing assistance only to women and children. Men are also victims of domestic violence and should be represented equally.

As for the child support "racket" the amount of support that a man has to pay, in most cases, is well beyond that which is imposed upon women. Oftentimes because we don't get equal time with our kids due to the age old stereotype that women are better nurturers.

As for you Blue, I have never known you to be disrespectful in your posts.

[blue]

Just a couple of things. Nowhere in this article did the author advocate harming women

Not in so many words, but he strongly disapproves of laws put in place to protect women and men (sure, more women are victims of sexual harassment, but men are also victims!) and disapproves of the VAWA. I understand your point that there is no similar law to protect men, but if that was the author's point he really didn't mention that or explain himself clearly. He was upset men are "acquiescing" to laws that can hold them responsible when women are hurt by them. The only reason I can see is that if women are harmed by men, he does not want any repercussion for the men. To me (and I fully realize we may just respectfully disagree here!), protesting a law that holds batterers responsible for their assaults, allows resources for education about domestic violence and help for battered women is about the same as advocating harming women.

I don't know how difficult it would have been to have a "Violence Against Others Act" though. Abused men aren't any less human or victimized than abused women.

While I am all for father's rights, the way this guy made most of his points just left me cold...actually upon reading it again, makes me sick to my stomach. When someone spouts such hatred and ignorance, I personally can't take anything else they say seriously. I think that essay does a huge disservice to fathers rights advocates, actually, by portraying them as ranting, racist, hateful, homophobic and misogynist. I was also offended by the way he speaks of single parent families. Nevermind, that article was offensive to me in many ways and I am going off topic, so I am dropping it now!

As for you Blue, I have never known you to be disrespectful in your posts.

Thanks, rockdundee.

[Anonymous]

Not ALL men are abusive blue,i was married to 2 of them,but as i clearly see there are 3 types of abusers The Good,Bad,ugly

And Cps is the ugliest abuser i know besides DCS,and these agencies are not at all good so where does that put them.


And there are woman abusers as well,so noone was putting anybody 1 man,womanin a catagory.You must be a people hater in order to be in the job you are,and you must not carefor kids to order to keep pullingthem away from innocent families especially when they have been found not quilty.

So take your shovinistic ways of thinking about people and hear us people,people in your job have had the last word and us people that stand hefe and defend ourselves haven't got one word in edgewise,and its time we do,so no more shuttin up for me i will and am useing my 1st amendment right to gab all i want and when i want.

[blue]

Not ALL men are abusive blue,

And there are woman abusers as well,so noone was putting anybody 1 man,womanin a catagory.

I'm not sure why you're implying that I think all men are abusive or that only women are victims of domestic violence, since I never said those things and in fact said the opposite.

So take your shovinistic ways of thinking about people and hear us people,

I am trying to hear you and understand, which is why I asked for clarification of your original post. I have been nothing but respectful to you, and all I've gotten in response are attacks and name-calling. I don't believe in treating people like that, and I don't respond to it.

[Anonymous]

you did so.Deny deny deny thats all youpeople know how to do.

[rockdundee]

Ok Blue and anyone else that is reading this thread. Don't get me wrong. Yes that author has some femenisim and hate issues. I don't agree with the way he stated MOST of the article, too much hate for me personally. But he has some valid points. Also I am not advocating the removal of the VAWA act, only the re-writing of it so as to make it cover ALL people equally.

The legislation provides the right to distribute federal funds allocated by VAWA to feminist orgs. Who routinely divert funds away from fathers rights orgs.

http://acfc.convio.net/site/DocServer/a ... ?docID=141

This is obvious discrimination on the part of our government based on gender.

And yes he does sound like a ranting lunatic but if you can get past his issues and ranting he's got some good points. Just not much on the delivery side of things...lol.

Again, I only agree with some of it.

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[blue]

I have made every effort to be respectful to everyone here and I will continue to do so. Some people will twist words or meaning to find an attack in something when there was nothing of the sort. I understand many of you feel the need to lash out, so you do so at me. I hope you feel like it's a good release of negative energy or somehow helping you to accomplish your goals.

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[sedwards]

Blue you say thru typo errors we will not be heard ... that is so untrue in here is tatally different than the courts . we are in here for help and to help others not tell them they are nor perfect as dcf thonks we should all be .. are you perfect . Do you make mistakes . I am to sure you do .. The biggest mistake you make is to work for a company that steals our children .. no typos you take children as they are screaming no no i dont want to go moomy help me ... you take children while watching there parents cry .... And that doesnt bother you .. You are no damn better than any of us in here so dont critisize us in here for protecting our rights . You dont have to have a high education to raise kids you need a loving hard and a kind hand and love .. Well that is something that no book can give you .. So if you ask me we are better than youll cause we love our children and will fight for them ... I am in here to help people get there children back .. And not to have youll comein and critisize them you done that enough when you stole the children .. And now the children are hurt and you feel good dont you . You feel good when you hear another child is beaten in a foster home . Another child found dead in a foster home .. Man something is wrong there .. youll dcf ,cps did that not the parents . you are here to help . well show me where you help . youll are so overwhelmed with cases that you are goinfg on calls where there is no abuse and taking there kids and ignoring the children that really need help ... Next report you get go there open minded these are humans there house may not be spotless , so they have kids , They had an argument so what who doesnt . If i remove there kids am i really helping them .. hummm nad i bet the answer will be no ... offer more services in the homes that need it. oh wait they dont want ot do that cause it takes from youlls money ... You need to leave these parents in here alone and quit degrading them go look in the mirror you are not perfect .. Judge not least ye be judged