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Postby tinytots » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:31 pm

I know you guys know the most about my situation and have somewhat been there with ADHD/OCD/ADD-

O.K. heres the skinny my son told the councellor at school he was being abused after being coerced into the coversation. I took the day off the day after the CPS worker came to prove he wasnt being abused and took him to his private Phy and Ped, then we wrote letter to the councellor and Principal and hand delivered them to the Principal who signed for both sets. (This is the second attempt at telling them in writing all verbal conversations are to include us or non occur, the first letter was written 11-29-05)
The principal is on our side, we got the councelors records and they are scary to say the least, however we thought this might be over... I called the CPS worker 12-22-05 and found out he hadnt even been by the school yet and this happened 12-6!!!! I told him I believe the councellor did this out of spite and that I know because I have his records he is the one who called the report in, I said I have enough information here to prove he is trying to involve himself in information from the old daycare case that he doesnt have a legal right to- ANyways I told him I also have gone to his Ped and PHy and have documents t prove for the last 8 years he has seen many professionals for his medical conditions and that they all believe he is not abused. He said his supervisor wanted to ask me something and he would call me back-
12-27-05 He calls to tell me his supervisor believes we need services, I asked if he meant councelling and he said somewhat, he needs us all to be interviewed seperately because our stories somewhat conflict, especially from the daycare case. I said you are aware that case is now closed. He said yes, but it was closed with a verfied status, I asked what that meant he said it is verified the child was infact injured at my daycare- I said excuse me I was not charged with anything and I will call the worker who personally closed the case and my attorney and then either he or I will call you back-
I called the old worker who told me yes it was verfied because the medical evidence does prove child abuse but that they cant say where or who or when it occured. In other words there is no alledged perpitrator and they cannot conclusively point to a time and place. He said tell him he is incorrect and to tell him there is no designated caretaker responcibility. I called him back and hes not there so I left a message to call me.

O.K. My question is, do they have a right to requestion us and are they just grasping at straws here. What if we let them question us but not the minor alone and if the child retracts his info from the councellor will they have no choice but to drop this? I noted in the states info that the district attorney has 15 days to decide whether to procecute, we are well past it so does that mean they have no evidence to do anything with this? Basically tell me what should I tell this guy when he calls me back-

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Postby Frustrated » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:20 pm

They are grasping straws, they don't have concrete evidence that shows it was you, it is just no perpuated identified person is involved here, so technically they have nothing on you.

It is funny though that they said the same thing to me through a Letter saying, they said that my Son was involved with other Children but there was NO Perpretator Identified. You see the wording? NO Perpretator identified.

So thus NO Evidence, so why are they keep pulling teeth? THAT is because they don't Have CONCRETE evidence against you. Nothing! They did the same trick on me, and they forced me into their Service Plan! (I regretted doing this) but they threatened me and forced me because I did not want to lose my Kids over no evidence whatosever. THEN my Case worker said "I would have to talk to my Supervisor about another Service for your Son".

You see? your Case worker had talked to the Supervisor, and the Supervisor wanting to know what and what's. Same with my case, my case worker is asking her Supervisor for another service? My Son is already in Counselling with CPS Worker at the School! What more is needed? I never Got ANY Response since her last email saying she would ask her Supervisor about another Service? It has been almost a month since the last correspondence.

SO they have nothing on me, and my Family, and I am getting an Adovocate Worker to help advise me to protect my interests, and my Rights. My Adovocate Worker works for the Association of the Deaf, and she will make sure they are not violating my rights, as they have not booked an Interpreter yet>? :roll: They were supposed to come here for monthly visits, and they have not yet set up meetings according to the Service Plan. So my thoughts is that they are hoping that I would screw up the Service Plan so they can take me to Court to get it court ordered, or even worse, they would take my Children into Custody. Just because my Son has ADHD, ADD< ODD????? :shock:

This is a plain and CLEAR Discrimination Case and they knew it. That is why they are not communicating with me whatsover. They keep delaying, delaying on purpose hoping that I would screw up their Service Plan. Guess what? That is not going to happen, because my Adovocate Worker will talk to them to ensure that I will complete ALL of their Service Plan. So they are stuck with their own Service Plan!

I guess what comes around, goes around back to them and HARD.j

I think in your Case is somewhat very similar to my case, because there are two words in my Case:

1. NO perpretrator Identified

2. Supervisor involvement.

They are going to try to force you into a Service Plan. Tell them, you ALREADY have Counselling for your Son. Period! Why add on top of it? Why add more programs that could harm your Son? pile it up? What for? They would probably get a Medical Release for you to sign so the Private Counsellor can release all the goodies to CPS. Don't sign this Medical Release. The Case is Closed Probably Founded for you but no concrete Evidence though. That is a slippery slope they are going on. You need to make sure you cover all the tracks, to protect yourself, your interests, and your Family. The CPS always put Parents on founded cases, so they can put them into Service Plans, automatically, and every time. It costs more fundings for them. That is what it is all about. :roll:

I would rather take this Case to Court, and have the Judge throw it out and dismiss the Case all together, because it would SHOW in Court Records, and you can Appeal this to sue the CPS for finding you on Founded Case, especially there were NO perpreteator Identified and they HAD NO EVIDENCE!!!

You are in their Central Registry automatically, and that would destroy your Day Care Business. You got to get that name off because anyone can check these out and the Parents would be too scared to put their Children into your Day Care Insitution.

It is a horrible way for ruining Families like these, and it is CPS Agencies. They already have a bad black name to their name, and they never fail to ruin more Families out there like you and me and others. That is what is despiciable about them. You cannot trust them at all. They can trick you into anything in their books. They can force you into Service Plan, they can threaten you by taking your Son away, etc...etc...etc...This is what they do. Be careful not to piss them off but just co-operate, and answer their Questions, and ask you to be present behind a mirror window watching your Son. You need to read more about Rights, their manuals, Laws some more, to protect your interests, and your Family. They are the only ammunition you have right now.

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Postby tinytots » Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:51 pm

He just called back. He said he would like me to accpet a referral to see the child protection team to have a social assesment done. That is where they will interview us together and then seperately to get a history and make sure our stories all jive. He said he has oonly spoken to the councellor and I said well then I recommend you speek to the principal as well as his 5th grade teacher, they can also set up several other key players who have direct contact with my child,the only person who believes he is abused is Mr Raskin and guess what? Thats the only person hes spoken to!!!!
He said it would be next week before he can get out there and I said thats fine, its very important you speek with the principal as soon as possible-

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Postby scarfyrre » Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:03 pm

Ok, let me make sure I have this straight.

You had a daycare abuse case and it was eventually closed.

This councellor claims your son told him you or someone else was abusing the son.

CPS hasn't discussed it with you until you called.

They are past the 15 day limit for prosecution. Are they past the time for investigation by the CPS?

They claim that because you and your son's 'stories' don't mesh, they want to take him and interview him seperately.

Is that the general idea? I don't want to give any bad advice, so I'm just making sure.

Now, if that is the general idea of the case, I would suggest you 1) get a lawyer to tell them to go away 2) do NOT in any case allow them to interview your son. I have learned the hard way that whenever CPS gets involved in interviewing, they pick the places that will find abuse where there isn't any.

I would also suggest that you tell this caseworker to investigate the other leads before he puts a child through something as traumatic as an interview. If you go this route, you need to be polite but firm that he needs to go to the adults first and that you want to see that he talked with them.

Logically, one would think the daycare case and your son's alleged claims are different things, but CPS doesn't think logically. I vaguely remember that the daycare thing had nothing to do with your son, but with someone that worked there and another child? If that's the case, they can't make up evidence. They need to investigate your son's alleged claim and not bring the daycare thiing into it at all. I cannot see how those two incidents merge.

I've got the policy manual for Florida pulled up, but I need to tuck my son into bed. I'll look through it a bit tonight and see what I can find. So far I see they're supposed to investigate claims when there is no immediate danger within 24 hours, which they didn't bother to do. That's stangely a plus in your favor because a judge won't like they waited almost a month to do anything, and even then you instigated it. Obviously an act of a protective and concerned mother, which is topped off with the fact you've taken him to many, many specialists for help.

I think "Screw 'em" but let me look through the manual a bit first. Just whatever you do, do NOT allow them to interview him alone, especially in one of their clinics. With those quacks, you're damned if you have, damned if you haven't. One perjured herself on the stand, the other lied to a 6yo's face about going home if he told the truth. Do NOT trust them at all.

I'll get back tonight or tomorrow.

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Postby Frustrated » Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:18 pm

Right, I agree. I mean they also waited 4 months and they found no evidence on me either. But they still managed to draw up the Service Plan regardless? They are still trembling to see if they have more evidence which they had none.

The Investigation is supposed to be up to 30 days, and close it with either founded or unfounded case. It can be extended with the Supervisor's permission to do so, until 60 days, some up to 90 days.

For me, it took them more than 114 days, to finally put up a Service Plan. They said the Case is not closed because they had "concerns". I told them and asked them blank out why it took so long to close the case or keep them open on what base of evidence?

Guess what? They HAD NO evidence, but they still go ahead with it regardless! That is how they are, just so vindicative and just to keep the money flowing into their buckets, and straight into their pockets.


****I do remember vaguely that your Son is ALREADY interviewed by a CPS Worker right, about few weeks ago? Why interview him again? That is "repetitive" questioning and according to the Judge, he or she does not like CPS asking repetitive questions because it is not always as geunine answer they are looking for when they first started asking questions, then it differs about month later. Children always change their answers when "under pressure" and it is a fact. My Children had resorted to abusive repetitive questioning from them over the period of 5 years, and this is the Case I will go against them in Court for asking repetitive questioning just to get the answer they wanted. The Judge won't be happy to find out that CPS Worker asked another question to a Child, and it is NOT in the best interest of the Child. It is harrassement to a Child.

Remember CPS Worker ALREADY asked questions with your Son, why give him another one? Did they ask the rest of the Family? They are supposed to, ya know? Everyone in the Family has to answer Questions, even another Child that you have, no matter how young they are. They do in fact ask questions on youngest age as 2 yrs old. I know this is the most ridiculous I have ever heard, but they do ask questions to a Baby. We know by proof from the Pschychologists and Pschycharists world wide that Babies up to 5 yrs old has wild answers, and a wild story teller, telling fairy tales out from fairy tale books, and the problem is that CPS actually believes what a Child say. :roll:

Like for example, Hansel and Gretel Story, we all know this one, an evil Witch puts the Child in the Stove and blah, blah....CPS would interpret the Evil Witch as the Mother and the Mother is abusing the Child. You see? They make wild associations with stories and actually believes anything a Child tells them. It can be as wacky and they will believe anything your Son says. Even though your Son is known to Lie about Stories, and it is NOT a good idea to have your Son interviewed again, but unless it is interviewed in front of your Psch. Doctor. You can put requests that the Interviews can be held in their Offices with a request that your Psch. Doctor to be present during the interview behind the mirrored window. Even a Counsellor or Private Therpasist would be even better, bring a Witness with you. They don't like Witnesses. I brought my Mother and they don't like that very much, and it closes the Case faster if you bring witnesses and to record everything, I mean everything. Write down on notes, etc...

My Son is also known to fabricate and lies about things and they ALREADY knew this because the School Principal told them that he is known to lie about things. That is what makes interviewing more risky.

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Postby tinytots » Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:36 am

It has only been (Dec 7 to now) less than 30 days since this claim came up, yes his councellor at school reported abuse.
Iam going to call him this am and tell him :
1. we would like to see the school associates we named interviewed first before we put ourselves through another round of questioning.
2. Due to my sons documented medical conditions our phy does not suggest the child be interviewed seperately, and if this has to be a condition that he demands he be present when the child be interviewed.

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Postby scarfyrre » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:28 am

That sounds like a good start. I wish I had thought to tell CPS to get their collateral contacts before they interviewed my son anymore. Oh well, I now know better, and now you do, too.

What CPS does and what they're supposed to do are two different things, Frustrated. I think we've all seen it. Sadly, we have to know their job better to be able to protect our children, families, and ourselves. Constantly saying what they're supposed to do will just give you an ulcer. We have to tell them what they *can't* do.

I don't know if CPS will accept his doctor being there as a condition to an interview. If you can get a lawyer, I suggest you do so. I haven't read enough of Florida state code or the manual to tell you anything right now, but I will make time today to see what I can find.

Let's say, though, that Florida is about the same with rules and regulations as Georgia. I had zero power in deciding what they did with my child, but once we got a lawyer, they couldn't do anything without him knowing. Or at least that was the idea. I think if you force their hand at interviewing the adults first, citing their own policy, that would be a good start. Shows them you're in control.

As far as the amount of interviews CPS can have, in Georgia it's as many as they want. And don't even bring up the idea that your child is lying, because then they can throw that right back in your face that he's lying about lying about the abuse. My lawyer thought about using that tactic, but he changed after I repeatedly said I believed what my son told me, but I don't believe what Grannis told me. Slight difference. If your son never said abuse to anyone but that counselor, who I'm sure did not tape the interview, then it turns into a game of proving who is more believable.

What might help you get organized is to write a list of what they have and what you have. You'll be surprised at just what little they do have. You've got all these doctors, a paper trail of medical/behavior problems, and a history of being a concernec and protective mother. That will help a lot.

I don't know if we can get this stopped before it starts, and you may be in for a long road again, but we can at least try. Be careful what you say to the CPS worker. Never offer any information, do not get ahead of him in citing policy (make him suggest something then cite policy as to why it's wrong), keep your son close, and let the principal know you are sending certified letters to him and the school counselor stating that your son is not to be interviewed by anyone without you or a lawyer present.

I'll see what I can figure out for you today. I'll try, but I have a cranky child and a messy house. :)

(As always, whatever I say is not legal advice, so don't take it as such.)

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Postby tinytots » Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:18 am

We decided to write a semi history of the night the worker came and to date what has been said between us, we faxed it to him along with what I said I was going to tell him.

We will wait for the school interviews to be done before I even sit down with anyone from his end of the rainbow-

The daycare thing... how do I go about getting the verified status off the abuse registry, I mean if I was not legally found to be the perpetrator then how can they get away with leaving that on my registry? I dont understand.

Im flat broke from being out of work since October, Im doing all I can to just keep my bills paid, I cant really afford a retainer for a lawyer right now, so we have up until now been talking to one for free, but since the daycare case wasnt criminal he cant really help anymore. We are going to have to find a civil or family law lawyer when we cant go this route anymore. Im hoping CPS realizes this isnt going to go anywhere and close it before I have to pony up a lawyer!!!!

I have read through Floridas statues, and so far Im trying to stay one step ahead of them, this ones alittle slow, it seems like he doesnt want to do any leg work and hes expecting me to give him a tell all book so he doesnt have to leave his state lazy chair!

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Postby Frustrated » Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:38 pm

Well, since the CPS told you the case is "verified", your name is already and automatically on the Abuse Registry just being investigated. And since they said verified, means founded probably substained, which means I think it means "indicated" but not enough evidence, but they do feel it is pointing this way. The name remains on the Abuse Registry and it is not looking good for your Day Care. The only way is to get it off is to expunge your name off which takes a long, long time. I know it all takes one CPS to ruin your Business and your Family in nano second and it is not FAIR. I know and can relate very much to this, but you need to find the strength to pull through all of this, like most people here said, do what they tell you to do, jump all their hoops, and co-operate, and to try to make things work by negiotating about interviewing your Son again, but first I would recommend that the Phy. Doctor write a certified letter to CPS, saying that it can be harmful for the Son to be interviewed again because of his condition. Unfortunately, the CPS don't care about jack about disorders on Children, and I think it is discrimination, and we are there to protect the Children's Rights to their Medical Condition. The CPS don't care about Children, period. That is why it is their jobs to investigate, and ask questions, nothing more. They kept interviewing my Children for the past 5 years, and my Children are getting angry and annoyed about this. One of them learned on their own, not to speak or answer of their questions anymore.

Tell the CPS "Ok, have this in writing so I can confer with my Attorney". This is what scares them the most when we get Lawyers. I know you don't have the money, but you would have to for your own protection. I would suggest you to find Support System like your Parents, or Relatives to help fund the Lawyer for you. You can tell them you can pay them back with a Loan. You would need at least a good $5,000. I still have my own Family Lawyer that I had for my Divorce, and Custody Arrangements, and he said he will help me through this as well if it were to get there and gets ugly. He said he will help me out. I have him on stand by and so far, the CPS are not talking to me. I have not heard from them lately, and they were supposed to come for monthly visits, and they are late already. I know they have not booked for an Interpreter because I called the Agency where they do their booking and she said there were no appointments made by CPS. I knew right then, they aren't doing anything to make sure I complete my Service Plan because they want me to screw this one up so they can take me to Court. That is why it is so important to have Email Correspondence to them and photo copy any replies from them, so you can use them for evidence in Court. I put in "Have you made an effort to make an appointment to set up with an Interpreter to meet with me in your Office"? If their response is "No", then I can use this against them. Same goes for you, you can put this in like "have you received correspondence letters from my Phy. Doctor about my Son's diagnosis?" or "have you received confirmation letter from my Son's Counsellor that he is receiving Therapy?" You need their replies on the Email and the date and time will the truth, and the Judge will see this as evidence.

What you need is to talk to the CPS Worker and have her give you an Email Address of her's or her Supervisor's Email Address so you can keep the correspondence emails and keep copies of them as evidence. I have them right here in my File, letters and emails, and correspondences. Copies from them are very important so keep them all.

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Postby tinytots » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:08 am

I talked to a lawyer yesterday. He told me any undfounded and verified but that dont actually say you did it will be removed from the central registry after 30 days. He said they remain in CPS records and they are the only ones who see it, but that the public does not.
On my case he said they have no evidence and that they want us to do their "social service" with CPT to gain more info not to help but to hinder (I knew that) so he said there are 2 ways to go the helpful parent or go pound sand- I have chosen go pound sand. I have been helpful and I get verified, so Ive learned my CPS lesson.
He said the fax I sent was perfect and he would be surprised if I hear back from them. He guesses they will wait 30 dys and close it unfounded. But he said there is a chance they may get nasty and he said tell them you have council and you will see them in court. I will, so here we go again...

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Postby Frustrated » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:06 pm

Seems like you have a really good Lawyer. He sounds decent and straightforward, and the truth, this is what is going to happen.

What about interviews with your Son? Did the Lawyer say anything about that?

Looks like a long road you will be taking, but it is better not to be named in the Abuse Registry than it is named on there, as it could give risks to close down your Day care. I would fight to get this off and case closed "unfounded" than the one that can be "founded".

Social Service? Sounds like a Service Plan they want to do with you. Do not do it, I regretted doing it, and it is very annoying, and very unpleasant, the waiting was awful and they are hoping I would screw up. They can use the Service Plan against me to bring me to Court to show I am in failure to comply with their Service Plan, but they do not know what they have coming when I have copies of THEIR FAilure to do so.

Keeping Documents and keeping copies is very, very important as it can be used for Evidence in Court. :wink:

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Postby tinytots » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:25 pm

yeah he said avoid the social services interview all of us all together. Its basically to get info for negative purposes. He is good and expensive 275 an hour! we are going to wait to see what happens before we have to hire him.
He said why pay all the money to have it expunged when it comes off in 30 days, he said even if you went through that it is still going to be visible to CPS regardless.

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Postby Frustrated » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:38 pm

The Lawyer makes a good point about Social Services, it is to gather information or evidence, bad stuff about you or your Family. I got this Service Plan that I am stuck with, and I knew that she is just gathering the goodies on me and my Family, she is NOT there to HELP me!

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Postby SilverFox » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:04 pm

I've done alot of research on this subject. I suggest that you don't get mad at them, cooperate with them, take their services, and be careful not to tell them more than they need to know. If you cooperate they may not file suit against you, and they might drop the case themselves after you have done services. Be aware that if you go to counseling they will expect you to admit some responsibility for whatever they believe you have done--don't let them accuse you of being in denial.

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Postby Frustrated » Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:10 pm

Yes, I agree, because so far it has worked for me for the past 5 years. Nod, co-operate, smile, talk less, do their services, then case is over. But we often forget that the new case will open if some one calls in the Hotline. It can be anyone, even CPS themselves just to get a Bonus Check. I have been there for 5 years, I have seen it all. I have two Service Plans to date in 5 years. Two Service Plans for two cases, and the others just unfounded, and dismissed. One went to Criminal Court, and Judge found no evidence and dismissed it all together. CPS kept our names on the Abuse Registry REGARDLESS! :x

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Postby SilverFox » Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:10 pm

Right, Frustrated. Once more people know about how easy it is to report, look out. Only when 1 out of 2 apathetic Americans are investigated by CPS will there be enough support to change the laws for the better.

There is so much apathy on this issue in the general public that it seems we get the kind of government we deserve.

Nobody cares until they or someone they know is the victim of CPS.

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Postby tinytots » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:48 am

I will cooperate with them when they call and all, but I dont see the need for a second interrigation when he shouldve gotten all the info when he came. Now he needs to get the counsellors records as I did, and talk to others at the school and call or write my sons doctors for evals from them. Thats where the actual info needs to come from now. After that as I said in my fax to them Ill be happy to sit down with them if further info is needed. Then if things go south I will have no choice but to insert lawyer and bite down on them- LOL!

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I hate to have to tell you this but...

Postby kdddav'swife » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:38 am

I live in Florida too unfortunatley and according to the Florida statutes any principal of a public or private school that your child attends has access to the hotline records and can grant access to anyone who has an educational interest in your child. This is how the third invasion on my family got started basically. A school guidance counselor thought that my learning disabled childs behavior indicated sexual /domestic abuse so she checked the hotline records and VOILA! she saw the we had two prior reports (both false and unfounded).
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Postby tinytots » Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:53 am

Kkdav, since they were both unfounded and false when you got hit the third time did they take the kids?

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Postby kdddav'swife » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:09 pm

The kids have never been removed. Basically what they do with us is a home visit (where they violate several of our constitutional rights), go behind our backs and talk to the kids at school (and my older non learning disabled kids now know to ask for a parent to be present), then close the case as unfounded. To date we have never even been to court. On our second case the investigator even broke into our home when my husband was cleaning and had the door propped open.She just stepped right inside as if she had the right to. That was our "Neglectfull supervision hazardous conditions" case. She illegally entered our home and it was her word against his.

We are trying valiently to keep our family together and want desperatley to move out of Florida so that we can have a brand new start in a new state. We are HYPERVIGILANT now since we have two special needs kids. Our hearts pound at every knock at the door until we know who it is. Fortunatley for us we do not get too many knocks.
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Postby tinytots » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:07 pm

yes I have heard your story before, I can totally relate because they went to my sons school too, that was with our first case and then thats what has continued into this one. The councellor is p-oed because we sent a letter saying no communication and he got miffed! :oops:

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Postby Frustrated » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:56 pm

I have never went to Court either YET. I have five cases against me and they would make up so many things which is unnecessary or ridiculous. I am sure this time around they are looking forward to bring me to court because they are not following through the Service Plan. But they don't really know that I am one step ahead of them every time! They know I know my Rights, and I know they are a bit scared of me because they had to ask their Supervisor if they should go ahead or not....I sued them for Civil Human Rights Violation for having no interpreter and I won that case. The Human Rights Commission is watching them as well, they told CPS to provide me an Interpreter and if they don't, they are in trouble.

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Postby scarfyrre » Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:10 am

Sounds like you have everything under control, tintytots. I didn't tell you anymore than you hadn't already known about. :)

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Postby tinytots » Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:53 am

Just a waiting now, I saw this woman at walmart yesterday...
Her baby no older than 10 months or so was crying and she screams at him shut up then grabs him by the arm and throws him into the metal basket of the shooping cart, literally by the arm!!!!
Everyone around stopped to see the show and she continued yapping to her freind like nothing afterwards! Yikes, all I could think is she is a prime target...

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Postby Frustrated » Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:09 pm

You see what I mean?

CPS Workers has alot in their Closets, skeltons in their closets, they have secrets too. :roll: They have demons within themselves, and they have problems about themselves, that is why they become CPS, to "save" from themselves.

It is totally uncalled for. They GET AWAY WITH IT TOO!

Yup, I saw one of my own Workers with my OWN eyes, at the track and field that her Kid, about 2 yrs old, was crying and screaming, and she shook him really good, and can't even get a control of him, can't even sit him on her lap, so she took off when she saw me. I shook my head, saying to myself, geez....she is AIN'T perfect either, and she tells me what to do? how to parent my own child? She SHOOK her Kid and grab by his arm and pulled him by his arm. I saw her again at Grocery Store, same thing. Can't even control her Kid. It is a WONDER she still working as CPS Worker and STILL GETS AWAY WITH IT! I even thought about the notion that CPS Workers ARE ABUSERS themselves!

I don't KNOW why the CPS Agencies are NOT doing anything about their own CPS Workers that has the same problem, abusing Children. :roll:


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