It's worse than a soap opera!

[Mary Garner]

I had to delete this...sorry.

[Dazeemay]

If I understand it correctly cps would have had to file a petition to the court over the new allegations.

Every time they came up with something new on our daughter our lawyer received the petition. Your lawyer should have received one. Get on his back and get it.

You need to do dec of facts and objection corrections forms and give them to everyone in court tomorrow. Hand them out to your lawyer, their lawyer, Gal, and judge. Be sure they are notarized.

[Bob_Lynn]

Since you won't be represented by an attorney, go to the site below and file the motions listed with the court. Do it ASAP. Good luck.

http://www.citizensoftheamericanconstit ... otions.htm

This is not legal advice, just my opinion.

[Mary Garner]

I had to delete this...sorry.

[Mary Garner]

I had to delete this...sorry.

[Greegor]

Mary, it merited two readings anyway!

He has criminal charges against him for
mental cruelty and contributing to delinquency?

Has he filed for a public defender (see clerk of court window)
or are you hiring a paid attorney?

Even without an attorney anybody should
be able to see the court records, the
accusation. If the clerk of court tries to
tell him that his ATTORNEY needs to be
the one to look at the file, have him tell
the clerk he is defending himself in court
PRO SE "pro say" and he needs to insist
upon seeing the full charge sheet.

He should NOT become violent or abusive,
but, but he may need to be very assertive!

When you find out more details about how
they think they're going to stick him for
those charges, please post the accusations
here.

Mental abuse is EXTREMELY hard to prove,
even if it were true!

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor?
Selling or giving liquor or beer to kids
enabling kids to party underage
keeping kids out of school or allowing them to skip
assisting kids with anything illegal for them

Is he getting an atty?

AT LEAST, since it's a CRIMINAL CHARGE he's
entitled to a full jury and a high standard
of evidence, more constitutional form of court
than Juvenile Kangaroo court.
Criminal Court can be pretty LOUSY also though.

I am not an attorney, and proud of that fact.

[Mary Garner]

I had to delete this...sorry.

[grandmatotwingles]

Our attorney advised us to photograph the children, individually, nude, front and back, every single time they were going to have any contact with their mother.

Wouldn't that be concidered child pornagraphy? That's a very scary situation there. IMHO is it just not right to subject the children to that.. my daughter was told by CPS to take pics of her boys before they went to their dads house.... but not nude.

[sob900]

Since you won't be represented by an attorney, go to the site below and file the motions listed with the court. Do it ASAP. Good luck.

http://www.citizensoftheamericanconstit ... otions.htm

This is not legal advice, just my opinion.

Thanks for this helpfull link Bob. I'm gonna use Motion to Claim and Exercise Constitutional Rights along with an affidavit I wrote called "Affidavit in support of Petition to claim and Exercise Constitutional Rights. I'll post a copy of it when I'm done and maybe it will be helpfull to someone else. I'm gonna make some changes to the motion a little to fit my particular case.
Dano

[sob900]

Mary, it merited two readings anyway!

He has criminal charges against him for
mental cruelty and contributing to delinquency?

Has he filed for a public defender (see clerk of court window)
or are you hiring a paid attorney?

Even without an attorney anybody should
be able to see the court records, the
accusation. If the clerk of court tries to
tell him that his ATTORNEY needs to be
the one to look at the file, have him tell
the clerk he is defending himself in court
PRO SE "pro say" and he needs to insist<<<<Change that pro se to sui juris(of my own accord) see www.suijuris.net for more info. Dano
upon seeing the full charge sheet.

He should NOT become violent or abusive,
but, but he may need to be very assertive!

When you find out more details about how
they think they're going to stick him for
those charges, please post the accusations
here.

Mental abuse is EXTREMELY hard to prove,
even if it were true!

Contributing to the delinquency of a minor?
Selling or giving liquor or beer to kids
enabling kids to party underage
keeping kids out of school or allowing them to skip
assisting kids with anything illegal for them

Is he getting an atty?

AT LEAST, since it's a CRIMINAL CHARGE he's
entitled to a full jury and a high standard
of evidence, more constitutional form of court
than Juvenile Kangaroo court.
Criminal Court can be pretty LOUSY also though.

I am not an attorney, and proud of that fact.

[Bob_Lynn]

I'm gonna use Motion to Claim and Exercise Constitutional Rights along with an affidavit I wrote called "Affidavit in support of Petition to claim and Exercise Constitutional Rights. I'll post a copy of it when I'm done and maybe it will be helpfull to someone else. I'm gonna make some changes to the motion a little to fit my particular case.

In a federal case, the rules of civil procedure calls for a "Brief" to be filed in support of a motion. You may want to check out the rules of civil procedure for the venue you're filing in. The court must take into consideration that you are filing pro se and give you leeway. An attorney can have a motion dismissed (in a federal case) if a motion is not accompanied by a brief. So you may want to consider filing a brief instead of an affidavit. Personally, I don't think it will cause a problem but who knows with these corrupt courts.

Just FYI (my opinion of course, not legal advice).

Of course, make sure anything you file with the court is fully appropriate to your case.

[Bob_Lynn]

I should add if you need help, PM me. I can't promise I know the answers but I did go through the pleading stage in my family's case.

[Mary Garner]

I had to delete this...sorry.