My husband was falsely accused of child abuse
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My husband was falsely accused of child abuse
Well I am not used to having to do this, which I guess is actually a good thing, but scary at the same time. My husband (the step father of my 2 boys) was arrested on April 12th for false accusations of child abuse. My 8 year old son had gone to school with a pink mark on his neck and the school reported my husband for child abuse. CPS went to my sons school, interviewed, strip searched and photographed my child without my consent nor knowledge. When I had gone to the school to see my son I was informed that he was in the middle of activities and that it was in his best interest not to be disturbed and I was escorted out of the school. An hour later my husband was arrested without even so much as an investigation. My 8yr old claims that when he was being interviewed the CPS worker and the plain clothed State Trooper identified themselves as Mommy's friends. My son also claims that the CPS worker kept asking him the same questions over and over again and that he just got tired of it. He said that she kept asking him "Does your Daddy beat you?" he would say "No, can I go back to class now?". The CPS would say "No, not until you tell us if your Daddy beats you." Since this was the same day as my sons Easter party and he was missing out on decorating his Easter eggs for the Easter egg hunt he said that he just told them yes to everything after that just so he could go back to class. As far as the SMALL PINK mark...not even a bruise or a scratch...just a small pink mark...on his neck, yes his Daddy did that on accident. The day before my husband was arrested, my son was getting ready to fall and my husband went to grab him accidently grabbing mostly just my sons shirt, so that he wouldnt hit his head on the table and the button up collared shirt my son was wearing did leave a small mark on his neck. It's not like my husband was trying to hurt him, it was the complete opposite, he was trying to help him. Even my childrens pediatrician can not believe this is going on and our lawyer says he isn't sure how CPS came up with the charges. My husband is still facing 30 years for child abuse. The CPS is claiming that my son told them that his Daddy beat him and threw him across the room. When I asked my son why he would say such a thing he got mad at me saying "I DIDN'T SAY THAT!". Now the CPS worker wants us to go to all these individual and family therapy programs which by the way we have to pay for even though we DO NOT have the money. Not to mention the fact we can't do family therapy since my husband is not to have contact with the boys. So for that we aren't meeting the CPS's expectations. Even though my husband lost his job due to him having to go to all these appointments and now I'm only working 28 hours a week instead of 40+, social services refuse to help because they don't see us as in an emergency situation. We could quite possibly lose our home due to this terrible mess and it seems like no one at social services cares. I did apply for emergency assistance due to us not having enough money coming in to cover the bills but still they seem to think we are made of money. I'm not proud to say we are low income...especially now that we are extremely low income....but where are my tax dollars going to if I can't receive help in my families time of need? I'm open to any and all suggestions anyone out there has to offer. I would love to know if there is anyway of filing a lawsuit since all of my rights as a person and as a mother have been violated. My husband is currently staying with my mother and I do have my children in my custody THANK GOD for that part. However my husband is innocent and should not be guilty until proven innocent in the eyes of the CPS. My husband took over the "Daddy" role when my youngest was 2 months old, my youngest will be 6 soon. It's not like this man just came into our lives and did all this. He has been there for my children through thick and thin (both boys are ADHD). He goes on all the field trips with the boys, takes them to their Dr. appointments and plays an extremely huge part in their lives and now until the court says so, he is to have no contact with either child. Where is the justice? Can anyone please PLEASE PLEASE help us????
What state are you in? Have you check the laws in your state concerning the questioning of a child without a parent present? In Virginia, they are required to audio tape the questioning. Same when they are questioning offenders that they are coercing into admiting they wronged a child.
They dont do it tho, and the social worker in my case lied her frigging butt off about what my kids said and told her in 'confidence'.
HOWEVER, I recently came across a case where an elderly man was accused of sexually assulting a girl. DUring his questioning he was not taped, and there was conflicting statements between the socail worker, the police officer and the elderly mans account. DUe to the fact that neither the police nor CPS taped the interview with the man, the VA court of appeals remanded all charges from the lesser courts. all charges Since the only proof that he had done anything was 2 different storys by the PO and SW stating that he admitted he had done it. WHich the man swore he never admitted anysuch thing.
They dont do it tho, and the social worker in my case lied her frigging butt off about what my kids said and told her in 'confidence'.
HOWEVER, I recently came across a case where an elderly man was accused of sexually assulting a girl. DUring his questioning he was not taped, and there was conflicting statements between the socail worker, the police officer and the elderly mans account. DUe to the fact that neither the police nor CPS taped the interview with the man, the VA court of appeals remanded all charges from the lesser courts. all charges Since the only proof that he had done anything was 2 different storys by the PO and SW stating that he admitted he had done it. WHich the man swore he never admitted anysuch thing.
In Mn, They are suppose to audio or video tape child interviews too, but usually don't either Mom
Fire...You have a lot of good points to your case, but it's to late for me to comment right now....
When is the next court date?
Fire...You have a lot of good points to your case, but it's to late for me to comment right now....
When is the next court date?
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Re: My husband was falsely accused of child abuse
firegal_gears wrote: Can anyone please PLEASE PLEASE help us????
This criminal charge won't go to trial.
It's too ridiculous.
The DA will offer a plea bargain and if your husband refuses and insists on a trial the DA will withdraw the charges.
The CPS caserecord will be completely different than the record of the interview by the police.
There was no injury just a pink mark.
If the child was thrown across the room there would be injuries and far worse than a single pink mark.
Have you signed any plans with CPS?
What's in the plans?
Best, Dan
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First of all thank you everyone! I truly thought I was alone until I found this site. I haven't checked the state laws to see if they were to record my son, we live in Maryland. That will be the next thing I look into. My husband's preliminary hearing is on May 11th and to be honest I'm scared to death. This loving caring man who didn't have to take on the Daddy role...but CHOSE to take the Daddy role is facing 30 years for nothing. After all this has happened, I can't say I have much faith in our legal system. The CPS worker has already done enough damage. Both my boys wake up screaming at night and calling out for Daddy. My youngest flat out refuses to eat. I had to take him back to the Dr. again today for the 3rd time since this has happened because I am afraid that he is not getting enough vitamins. His teacher says that all he does in school is cry. My oldest son has straightened up alittle realizing how severe this is, but he too will go 1-2 days without eating. When he's home he writes Daddy letters and asks me all the time when he can see Daddy again. Yeah it really sounds like this man was abusive...but the cps worker don't care. God knows the CPS isn't willing to help pay for any of these so called mandatory therapy appointments either. My husband has to attend the Abusers Intervention Program which is a 26 week long program that he has to go to once a week, oh and it costs $700. They don't care that there is hardly any money at all coming in but if he doesn't pay it then we aren't meeting the CPS workers expectations. I seem to be getting my frustration out on here so I apologize if I seem alittle aggravated but I just don't know what to do anymore.
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Re: My husband was falsely accused of child abuse
Dan Sullivan wrote:firegal_gears wrote: Can anyone please PLEASE PLEASE help us????
This criminal charge won't go to trial.
It's too ridiculous.
The DA will offer a plea bargain and if your husband refuses and insists on a trial the DA will withdraw the charges.
The CPS caserecord will be completely different than the record of the interview by the police.
There was no injury just a pink mark.
If the child was thrown across the room there would be injuries and far worse than a single pink mark.
Have you signed any plans with CPS?
What's in the plans?
Best, Dan
We are hoping that this will be thrown out as of May 11th when we go for his preliminary hearing. It's the in between now and then that I am worried about. You are exactly right "If the child was thrown across the room there would be injuries and far worse than a single pink mark." My son is quite petite and always has been and is extremely fragile not to mention he bruises easily. That luckily I have his pediatrician to back me up on. We have had my son tested for diabetes due to him bruising easily and keeping the bruises for extended periods of time. So yes definitely, if my son had been thrown he would have probably broken something let alone been all bruised up. To be completely honest yes my son did have bruises on like his knees and all but I have yet to meet an 8 year old boy who don't. He is an extremely active young child with lots of energy. He climbs trees, rides his bike (our driveway is filled with rocks), we have a complete swing set that he plays on and he plays soccer. So yes he even has bruises now even without my husband being in the home. Once upon a time ago I could tell you where every bruise came from but since I could say exactly for sure where the bruise came from on his knee, that meant I was hiding something. At least that is what the CPS worker told me.
Yes we did sign a "safety plan" stating that my husband wouldn't come back to the home or be around the children until the judge says he can. The plan also states that we have to attend individual and family therapy, also attend parenting classes. My husband also had to go to drug and alcohol councelling for what I don't know because we are so low income we don't even to go out on "dates" just the two of us. We didn't have money for bars or stupid crap and we aren't that type of people anyways. My husband also has to attend a 26 week long Abusers Intervention Program that is going to cost us $700 that we don't have.
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Re: My husband was falsely accused of child abuse
firegal_gears wrote:
Yes we did sign a "safety plan" stating that my husband wouldn't come back to the home or be around the children until the judge says he can. The plan also states that we have to attend individual and family therapy, also attend parenting classes. My husband also had to go to drug and alcohol councelling for what I don't know because we are so low income we don't even to go out on "dates" just the two of us. We didn't have money for bars or stupid crap and we aren't that type of people anyways. My husband also has to attend a 26 week long Abusers Intervention Program that is going to cost us $700 that we don't have.
If there are no drug or alcohol problems your husband shouldn't be going to counseling for something that doesn't exist.
When did you sign the plan?
How long does the plan say you have to go to parenting classes?
Why do you need individual and family therapy?
What has the therapist said so far about your situation?
And an Abusers Intervention Program?????
If there was no abuse what's that for?
CPS has you in WAAAAAY over your head.
Hopefully we'll work something out.
Best, Dan
I replied to your PM fire_gears.
This whole case is all about sucking you dry to support the CPS colluding industry. Getting your husband out of your home is all about the divide and conquer strategy and they're picking on you because you have little financial recourse.
Of course, none of the above is helping you but I'm just informing you of their motives and methods to their madness so you know where they're coming from. The deck is heavily stacked against you and you may not get proper justice until you go to a higher court via an appeal.
This whole case is all about sucking you dry to support the CPS colluding industry. Getting your husband out of your home is all about the divide and conquer strategy and they're picking on you because you have little financial recourse.
Of course, none of the above is helping you but I'm just informing you of their motives and methods to their madness so you know where they're coming from. The deck is heavily stacked against you and you may not get proper justice until you go to a higher court via an appeal.
Glad to see you posted here fire_gears.
Once you do the guardianship let's see how far they are willing to go if they can't have the children.
They may make you still go through the hoops with the papers you signed, but they can't have your kids nor the money funded by the federal government. So, they may back off or just out of meaness make you do the classes.
Here is the link for filing the forms.
www.geocities.com/whosyurmamma/start.html
Once you do the guardianship let's see how far they are willing to go if they can't have the children.
They may make you still go through the hoops with the papers you signed, but they can't have your kids nor the money funded by the federal government. So, they may back off or just out of meaness make you do the classes.
Here is the link for filing the forms.
www.geocities.com/whosyurmamma/start.html
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
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I know neither one of should have to be going through any of this nonsense. There has never been any kind of drug use at all and drinking is something for special occasions. Yes we might have a drink for New Years' and once in awhile maybe for our Anniversary, thats it.
We have had to sign many plans. Our lawyer told us to just do the best we could with the "safety plan" to go along with them to the best of our ability. Which is what we have done thus far. Though everytime we make any of the contacts the CPS worker tells us to do, that agency tells us they can not help us. The safety plan has changed several times in the last 3 weeks and the CPS worker keeps saying that we are not meeting her expectations even though its the agencies she sends us to that is turning us down. It's not that we are not trying, but we just keep hitting brick walls.
There is no date as to when we are able to stop the parenting classes, and I have not been able to start those yet. The person in charge of the parenting classes in my area just called me back this week after I had left SEVERAL messages on her voicemail. When she called yesterday she informed me I could start today, but the class is from 11am-12noon and my youngest son doesn't get on the bus unti 11:15am so by the time I could make it there the class would be half over. When I mentioned that to her she told me that was unacceptable and that she would see about having someone come out to my home on a daily basis. Keep in mind almost everyday of the week my oldest son has therapy sessions and my youngest goes twice a week basically to play with the therapist. How I am supposed to do all this I have yet to figure out.
Not sure why the family and individual therapy sessions, except that way it costs us more money that we don't have, nor do we need it. Now as far as my children, well they very well may need the therapy just to get them through all this hardship. My boys are "Daddy's Boys" seriously. They go hunting, fishing, camping, out on the boat with Daddy and their grandfather (My husbands father) and everything. So right now they are seriously depressed and the therapy might not hurt for them to talk about everything. I don't really know.
The therapist my boys go to doesn't quite understand much. He says everytime he talks to my oldest, my son gets mad at him and won't talk. Can't really say I blame him, since he has already been played a fool by the CPS and police officer. So now my oldest don't trust anyone. Which is good in a way, but at the same time this has brought alot of anger out of my children. They constantly fight, my youngest keeps blaming my oldest for Daddy not being here and my oldest gets quite upset. As he should and I know he is entitled to feeling betrayed. My therapist wants me to consider going on anti depressants, which I keep turning down. My husbands therapist says he doesn't quite understand why this is such a big deal. We have not yet attended family therapy because my husband is not allowed around the children. So we are damned if we do..cause then he would go to jail since he isn't allowed around the boys...and damned if we don't....cause then we aren't meeting the CPS's expectations.
Yes Abusers Intervention Program that basically says when you get mad at someone walk away instead of hitting them. um...duh??? Anyone with common sense knows that. Even though this is obviously not a case of abuse he still has to pay the $700 for the program (which we have not as of yet because the lawyer told us to contact the CPS agent to request financial aid with the program and she has not bothered to contact us back in over a week) or we are not meeting the CPS's expectations.....once again damned if we do..ect...
Can't answer why, sorry, it's just another part of the "Safety Plan". There has never been abuse in my home!
CPS has you in WAAAAAY over your head. - That is the understatement of the century in my opinion.
God as my witness if my husband were the beast these people are making him out to be I would hurt him myself. My boys are my life, I wouldn't be with someone if I had any doubts at all. I do hope someone can help me work this out. I feel as though all of my rights as both a USA citizen and a mother have been violated.
Thank you Dan!
Thank you Bob_Lynn for your IM as well and all the help you have offered me thus far, keep it coming!
I pretty much already realized this case was mostly about sucking us dry to the point where I would have to give up my children due to not being able to provide for them anymore. Social Services will not help us at all, which I would seriously love for someone to explain to me why not? I hate the fact that for exactly 3 weeks to the day now my husband has not been allowed home over something so stupid. I will take this as high as I can possibly afford and when this is over with I plan on taking courses to become a Paralegal specializing in this particular field. I have to get my family back at all costs, no matter how much it breaks us or kills me...but at the same time I also want to become more knowledgable to help educate others.
I thank everyone for all the help they have offered no matter how big or small. I have never been one to gripe about my personal affairs, but with such a serious matter it means alot to me to know there are decent people out in this world who can help and are willing to do so.
We have had to sign many plans. Our lawyer told us to just do the best we could with the "safety plan" to go along with them to the best of our ability. Which is what we have done thus far. Though everytime we make any of the contacts the CPS worker tells us to do, that agency tells us they can not help us. The safety plan has changed several times in the last 3 weeks and the CPS worker keeps saying that we are not meeting her expectations even though its the agencies she sends us to that is turning us down. It's not that we are not trying, but we just keep hitting brick walls.
There is no date as to when we are able to stop the parenting classes, and I have not been able to start those yet. The person in charge of the parenting classes in my area just called me back this week after I had left SEVERAL messages on her voicemail. When she called yesterday she informed me I could start today, but the class is from 11am-12noon and my youngest son doesn't get on the bus unti 11:15am so by the time I could make it there the class would be half over. When I mentioned that to her she told me that was unacceptable and that she would see about having someone come out to my home on a daily basis. Keep in mind almost everyday of the week my oldest son has therapy sessions and my youngest goes twice a week basically to play with the therapist. How I am supposed to do all this I have yet to figure out.
Not sure why the family and individual therapy sessions, except that way it costs us more money that we don't have, nor do we need it. Now as far as my children, well they very well may need the therapy just to get them through all this hardship. My boys are "Daddy's Boys" seriously. They go hunting, fishing, camping, out on the boat with Daddy and their grandfather (My husbands father) and everything. So right now they are seriously depressed and the therapy might not hurt for them to talk about everything. I don't really know.
The therapist my boys go to doesn't quite understand much. He says everytime he talks to my oldest, my son gets mad at him and won't talk. Can't really say I blame him, since he has already been played a fool by the CPS and police officer. So now my oldest don't trust anyone. Which is good in a way, but at the same time this has brought alot of anger out of my children. They constantly fight, my youngest keeps blaming my oldest for Daddy not being here and my oldest gets quite upset. As he should and I know he is entitled to feeling betrayed. My therapist wants me to consider going on anti depressants, which I keep turning down. My husbands therapist says he doesn't quite understand why this is such a big deal. We have not yet attended family therapy because my husband is not allowed around the children. So we are damned if we do..cause then he would go to jail since he isn't allowed around the boys...and damned if we don't....cause then we aren't meeting the CPS's expectations.
Yes Abusers Intervention Program that basically says when you get mad at someone walk away instead of hitting them. um...duh??? Anyone with common sense knows that. Even though this is obviously not a case of abuse he still has to pay the $700 for the program (which we have not as of yet because the lawyer told us to contact the CPS agent to request financial aid with the program and she has not bothered to contact us back in over a week) or we are not meeting the CPS's expectations.....once again damned if we do..ect...
Can't answer why, sorry, it's just another part of the "Safety Plan". There has never been abuse in my home!
CPS has you in WAAAAAY over your head. - That is the understatement of the century in my opinion.
God as my witness if my husband were the beast these people are making him out to be I would hurt him myself. My boys are my life, I wouldn't be with someone if I had any doubts at all. I do hope someone can help me work this out. I feel as though all of my rights as both a USA citizen and a mother have been violated.
Thank you Dan!
Thank you Bob_Lynn for your IM as well and all the help you have offered me thus far, keep it coming!
I pretty much already realized this case was mostly about sucking us dry to the point where I would have to give up my children due to not being able to provide for them anymore. Social Services will not help us at all, which I would seriously love for someone to explain to me why not? I hate the fact that for exactly 3 weeks to the day now my husband has not been allowed home over something so stupid. I will take this as high as I can possibly afford and when this is over with I plan on taking courses to become a Paralegal specializing in this particular field. I have to get my family back at all costs, no matter how much it breaks us or kills me...but at the same time I also want to become more knowledgable to help educate others.
I thank everyone for all the help they have offered no matter how big or small. I have never been one to gripe about my personal affairs, but with such a serious matter it means alot to me to know there are decent people out in this world who can help and are willing to do so.
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Thanks for your advice to post here! You and Bob have been such a wonderful help, as have many people!!
We are working on the guardianship papers so hopefully that will get them to back off.
I don't mind jumping through the hoops as long as their are no brick walls behind them. I will gladly do whatever I can to get my family back under the same roof. As long as I know in the process my boys are safe, that's all that matters to me.
We are working on the guardianship papers so hopefully that will get them to back off.
I don't mind jumping through the hoops as long as their are no brick walls behind them. I will gladly do whatever I can to get my family back under the same roof. As long as I know in the process my boys are safe, that's all that matters to me.
Dazeemay wrote:Glad to see you posted here fire_gears.
Once you do the guardianship let's see how far they are willing to go if they can't have the children.
They may make you still go through the hoops with the papers you signed, but they can't have your kids nor the money funded by the federal government. So, they may back off or just out of meaness make you do the classes.
Here is the link for filing the forms.
www.geocities.com/whosyurmamma/start.html
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Dan Sullivan
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firegal_gears wrote:
God as my witness if my husband were the beast these people are making him out to be I would hurt him myself. My boys are my life, I wouldn't be with someone if I had any doubts at all. I do hope someone can help me work this out. I feel as though all of my rights as both a USA citizen and a mother have been violated.
Thank you Dan!
What is your CPS caseworker like?
What are the allegations?
Do you have anything in writing?
Does he/she believe the allegations are true?
Is the only physical evidence the pink mark, if you know?
Are the knee scrapes part of the case??
Your focus should be on proving the allegations to be false.
That's the goal to get this case down to what it should really be.
And whatever the boy said, it was so he could get back to the Easter party.
Stay focused and we'll write a new plan for CPS based on the truth.
Best, Dan
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The CPS worker is a young single, no children of her own, know it all. She is arrogant, and quite pushy. She believes my husband is guilty of abuse and she will stop at nothing to put him away for the full 30 years.
The allegations are my husband hit my son with an open hand and threw him across the room.
The only things I have in writing I have already given to my lawyer, so I don't have copies of the safety plans. I was never given anything else.
Yes and no, they claimed the pink mark is what got them involved, and that is the only mark they charged my husband with making. Then after she found out that we had a lawyer she became focused on the fact he had a few bruises like on his knees. Though my husband was not charged for the bruises on my son's knee that is one of the CPS workers focus points now, because I could not without a doubt pin point when, where and how my son had gotten the bruise on his leg.
Even my son says his Daddy had never hit him. My son is ADHD and he gets irratated if things don't go his way. When the CPS would not allow him to go back to class he just gave up and answered the way she wanted him to. All because he wanted to decorate some Easter eggs for the Easter egg hunt.
I promise I'm trying my best to stay focused. There are so many appointments in so many different places for everyone I don't know whether I am coming or going. On top of it, I'm not sleeping because I do customer service taking phone calls at home from 12am-7am monday-thursdays now. Since I couldn't work my regular shift the company I work for is allowing me to take the midnight shift calls at home. So by time I transfer the phones back to the office at 7am I have to get my oldest on the bus at 7:15am and my day starts all over again.
I would love to have help writing something up for CPS, and at some point after all is said and done, I do plan on putting something in our local papers just to have them retract the abuse charges. Lawsuit...maybe...but can't afford any more lawyers. I honestly can't afford the one we got now.
I should be back on here later on, I have to go pick my boys up from school so they can go talk and play with their therapists for the next hour or so.
The allegations are my husband hit my son with an open hand and threw him across the room.
The only things I have in writing I have already given to my lawyer, so I don't have copies of the safety plans. I was never given anything else.
Yes and no, they claimed the pink mark is what got them involved, and that is the only mark they charged my husband with making. Then after she found out that we had a lawyer she became focused on the fact he had a few bruises like on his knees. Though my husband was not charged for the bruises on my son's knee that is one of the CPS workers focus points now, because I could not without a doubt pin point when, where and how my son had gotten the bruise on his leg.
Even my son says his Daddy had never hit him. My son is ADHD and he gets irratated if things don't go his way. When the CPS would not allow him to go back to class he just gave up and answered the way she wanted him to. All because he wanted to decorate some Easter eggs for the Easter egg hunt.
I promise I'm trying my best to stay focused. There are so many appointments in so many different places for everyone I don't know whether I am coming or going. On top of it, I'm not sleeping because I do customer service taking phone calls at home from 12am-7am monday-thursdays now. Since I couldn't work my regular shift the company I work for is allowing me to take the midnight shift calls at home. So by time I transfer the phones back to the office at 7am I have to get my oldest on the bus at 7:15am and my day starts all over again.
I would love to have help writing something up for CPS, and at some point after all is said and done, I do plan on putting something in our local papers just to have them retract the abuse charges. Lawsuit...maybe...but can't afford any more lawyers. I honestly can't afford the one we got now.
I should be back on here later on, I have to go pick my boys up from school so they can go talk and play with their therapists for the next hour or so.
Dan Sullivan wrote:firegal_gears wrote:
God as my witness if my husband were the beast these people are making him out to be I would hurt him myself. My boys are my life, I wouldn't be with someone if I had any doubts at all. I do hope someone can help me work this out. I feel as though all of my rights as both a USA citizen and a mother have been violated.
Thank you Dan!
What is your CPS caseworker like?
What are the allegations?
Do you have anything in writing?
Does he/she believe the allegations are true?
Is the only physical evidence the pink mark, if you know?
Are the knee scrapes part of the case??
Your focus should be on proving the allegations to be false.
That's the goal to get this case down to what it should really be.
And whatever the boy said, it was so he could get back to the Easter party.
Stay focused and we'll write a new plan for CPS based on the truth.
Best, Dan
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firegal_gears wrote: The CPS worker is a young single, no children of her own, know it all. She is arrogant, and quite pushy. She believes my husband is guilty of abuse and she will stop at nothing to put him away for the full 30 years.
Never gonna happen.
The DA is gonna offer a plea bargain.
If your husband refuses and insists on a trail, the DA will withdraw the charges.
Last month I helped a man in Texas who was to start trial on sexual abuse of his stepdaughter.
And the DA withdrew the charges after he refused to accept the plea bargain.
firegal_gears wrote: The allegations are my husband hit my son with an open hand and threw him across the room.
The injury doesn't support the allegation.
firegal_gears wrote: The only things I have in writing I have already given to my lawyer, so I don't have copies of the safety plans. I was never given anything else.
Yes and no, they claimed the pink mark is what got them involved, and that is the only mark they charged my husband with making. Then after she found out that we had a lawyer she became focused on the fact he had a few bruises like on his knees. Though my husband was not charged for the bruises on my son's knee that is one of the CPS workers focus points now, because I could not without a doubt pin point when, where and how my son had gotten the bruise on his leg.
He's a kid.
He got the scrapes on his knees playing.
firegal_gears wrote: Even my son says his Daddy had never hit him. My son is ADHD and he gets irratated if things don't go his way. When the CPS would not allow him to go back to class he just gave up and answered the way she wanted him to. All because he wanted to decorate some Easter eggs for the Easter egg hunt.
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.
firegal_gears wrote: I promise I'm trying my best to stay focused. There are so many appointments in so many different places for everyone I don't know whether I am coming or going.
After the May 11th court date we'll redo the safety plan... to what it should be.
CPS is gonna freak out.
But all they'll have then is a pink mark, which means NOTHING.
firegal_gears wrote: I would love to have help writing something up for CPS,
I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.
firegal_gears wrote: and at some point after all is said and done, I do plan on putting something in our local papers just to have them retract the abuse charges.
Not a good idea.
It'll make you a target all over again.
firegal_gears wrote: Lawsuit...maybe...but can't afford any more lawyers. I honestly can't afford the one we got now.
Some people advise suing, but it takes years out of your life, not to mention the cost.
And there's no guarantee of the outcome.
If I thought someone had a good chance of suing CPS and winning I'd be the first to suggest it.
Stick to the goal, proving the allegations to be false or in your case not credible evidence of anything.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Best, Dan
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Never gonna happen.
The DA is gonna offer a plea bargain.
If your husband refuses and insists on a trail, the DA will withdraw the charges.
Last month I helped a man in Texas who was to start trial on sexual abuse of his stepdaughter.
And the DA withdrew the charges after he refused to accept the plea bargain.
Nobody has mentioned a plea bargain as of yet...though I have found out some good news while I was at the therapy appointment waiting for my son to come out. Our lawyer called and there is a bail review hearing tomorrow at 8:45am. Though I'm not really sure what a bail review is, I am hoping that somewhere along the lines that will mean my husband can come home tomorrow....so PLEASE everyone pray for my family tonight before you go to bed!! I will let him know though that if he is presented with a plea bargain to ask for a jury trial. Thanks for the tip!
The injury doesn't support the allegation.
Exactly what the lawyer said when he told my husband and I that he couldn't see where the CPS came up with the charges.
He's a kid.
He got the scrapes on his knees playing.
That's what I tried to tell her (the CPS worker). I told her that with my children always being outside and always showing up with marks I gave up on trying to pin point them all the time. Also keep in mind my oldest (the one they claim as the "victim") just learned how to ride his bike without the training wheels on as of this month. So of course he would have scratches and bruises. Unless my boys come to me and say "hey Mommy this hurts" I don't go out of my way anymore for small bumps and bruises. Now if it's huge or painful looking, yes of course I ask and sometimes I get an answer and other times I get "I don't know". Now if the boys themselves haven't a clue how they got a mark how am I supposed to know?
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.
Well the DA better be prepared for it, I have every intention of letting them know exactly what happened, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God! If they didn't want it to come out in court that they badgered and harrassed an 8 year old child the day of his Easter party then they should have left well enough alone. My son wants to go to court with us, but so far no one has said whether he would be allowed or not.
After the May 11th court date we'll redo the safety plan... to what it should be.
Am I allowed to do my own safety plan...with your help of course...I am still trying to learn exactly what rights I have and how to go about exercising them.
CPS is gonna freak out.
I would love to watch them squirm in their seats as they are put on the spot by my son...Though I know that probably wouldn't happen. Seriously, I would love to get the CPS worker in trouble though for all the pain and suffering she has caused my family, not to mention the financial strain that we are going to feel for quite a long time.
[color=blue][b]I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.
I can't thank you enough for helping me with all that I am going through. I wouldn't know where to start. Very basic simple stuff I guess if you know what you are doing...I haven't a clue.
Not a good idea.
It'll make you a target all over again.
You have a good point there, but with living in such a small area I hate the thought of people believing the lies. Do you have any suggestions as to how we could get the truth out there?
Some people advise suing, but it takes years out of your life, not to mention the cost.
And there's no guarantee of the outcome.
If I thought someone had a good chance of suing CPS and winning I'd be the first to suggest it.
I really don't have the money to file a lawsuit, I would just like to see some kind of remorse from the CPS. I hate knowing that their are so many families going through this and having their hands tied as to the options they have against the CPS. Just saying this isn't fair doesn't seem to fit the bill if you know what I mean.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Pink...thats all..just one little pink mark about an inch long on the side of his neck and this is the crap we have to deal with. I could understand it if my son had like a bruise in the shape of a hand around his neck or something that could without a doubt be proven he was abused, but come on a pink mark? Like I said before even the pediatrician checked my son after my husband was arrested and couldn't understand the big fuss. Which leads me to my next question...if the CPS worker truly believed my son was that injured and that abused why didn't she seek medical attention for my son? The pediatrician had no clue what was going on until I told him the situation, shouldn't the CPS worker have been the first person to contact my sons doctor???
The DA is gonna offer a plea bargain.
If your husband refuses and insists on a trail, the DA will withdraw the charges.
Last month I helped a man in Texas who was to start trial on sexual abuse of his stepdaughter.
And the DA withdrew the charges after he refused to accept the plea bargain.
Nobody has mentioned a plea bargain as of yet...though I have found out some good news while I was at the therapy appointment waiting for my son to come out. Our lawyer called and there is a bail review hearing tomorrow at 8:45am. Though I'm not really sure what a bail review is, I am hoping that somewhere along the lines that will mean my husband can come home tomorrow....so PLEASE everyone pray for my family tonight before you go to bed!! I will let him know though that if he is presented with a plea bargain to ask for a jury trial. Thanks for the tip!
The injury doesn't support the allegation.
Exactly what the lawyer said when he told my husband and I that he couldn't see where the CPS came up with the charges.
He's a kid.
He got the scrapes on his knees playing.
That's what I tried to tell her (the CPS worker). I told her that with my children always being outside and always showing up with marks I gave up on trying to pin point them all the time. Also keep in mind my oldest (the one they claim as the "victim") just learned how to ride his bike without the training wheels on as of this month. So of course he would have scratches and bruises. Unless my boys come to me and say "hey Mommy this hurts" I don't go out of my way anymore for small bumps and bruises. Now if it's huge or painful looking, yes of course I ask and sometimes I get an answer and other times I get "I don't know". Now if the boys themselves haven't a clue how they got a mark how am I supposed to know?
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.
Well the DA better be prepared for it, I have every intention of letting them know exactly what happened, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God! If they didn't want it to come out in court that they badgered and harrassed an 8 year old child the day of his Easter party then they should have left well enough alone. My son wants to go to court with us, but so far no one has said whether he would be allowed or not.
After the May 11th court date we'll redo the safety plan... to what it should be.
Am I allowed to do my own safety plan...with your help of course...I am still trying to learn exactly what rights I have and how to go about exercising them.
CPS is gonna freak out.
I would love to watch them squirm in their seats as they are put on the spot by my son...Though I know that probably wouldn't happen. Seriously, I would love to get the CPS worker in trouble though for all the pain and suffering she has caused my family, not to mention the financial strain that we are going to feel for quite a long time.
firegal_gears wrote: I would love to have help writing something up for CPS,
[color=blue][b]I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.
I can't thank you enough for helping me with all that I am going through. I wouldn't know where to start. Very basic simple stuff I guess if you know what you are doing...I haven't a clue.
Not a good idea.
It'll make you a target all over again.
You have a good point there, but with living in such a small area I hate the thought of people believing the lies. Do you have any suggestions as to how we could get the truth out there?
Some people advise suing, but it takes years out of your life, not to mention the cost.
And there's no guarantee of the outcome.
If I thought someone had a good chance of suing CPS and winning I'd be the first to suggest it.
I really don't have the money to file a lawsuit, I would just like to see some kind of remorse from the CPS. I hate knowing that their are so many families going through this and having their hands tied as to the options they have against the CPS. Just saying this isn't fair doesn't seem to fit the bill if you know what I mean.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Pink...thats all..just one little pink mark about an inch long on the side of his neck and this is the crap we have to deal with. I could understand it if my son had like a bruise in the shape of a hand around his neck or something that could without a doubt be proven he was abused, but come on a pink mark? Like I said before even the pediatrician checked my son after my husband was arrested and couldn't understand the big fuss. Which leads me to my next question...if the CPS worker truly believed my son was that injured and that abused why didn't she seek medical attention for my son? The pediatrician had no clue what was going on until I told him the situation, shouldn't the CPS worker have been the first person to contact my sons doctor???
Dan Sullivan wrote:firegal_gears wrote: The CPS worker is a young single, no children of her own, know it all. She is arrogant, and quite pushy. She believes my husband is guilty of abuse and she will stop at nothing to put him away for the full 30 years.
[color=blue][b]Never gonna happen.
The DA is gonna offer a plea bargain.
If your husband refuses and insists on a trail, the DA will withdraw the charges.
Last month I helped a man in Texas who was to start trial on sexual abuse of his stepdaughter.
And the DA withdrew the charges after he refused to accept the plea bargain.firegal_gears wrote: The allegations are my husband hit my son with an open hand and threw him across the room.
The injury doesn't support the allegation.firegal_gears wrote: The only things I have in writing I have already given to my lawyer, so I don't have copies of the safety plans. I was never given anything else.
Yes and no, they claimed the pink mark is what got them involved, and that is the only mark they charged my husband with making. Then after she found out that we had a lawyer she became focused on the fact he had a few bruises like on his knees. Though my husband was not charged for the bruises on my son's knee that is one of the CPS workers focus points now, because I could not without a doubt pin point when, where and how my son had gotten the bruise on his leg.
He's a kid.
He got the scrapes on his knees playing.firegal_gears wrote: Even my son says his Daddy had never hit him. My son is ADHD and he gets irratated if things don't go his way. When the CPS would not allow him to go back to class he just gave up and answered the way she wanted him to. All because he wanted to decorate some Easter eggs for the Easter egg hunt.
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.firegal_gears wrote: I promise I'm trying my best to stay focused. There are so many appointments in so many different places for everyone I don't know whether I am coming or going.
After the May 11th court date we'll redo the safety plan... to what it should be.
CPS is gonna freak out.
But all they'll have then is a pink mark, which means NOTHING.firegal_gears wrote: I would love to have help writing something up for CPS,
I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.firegal_gears wrote: and at some point after all is said and done, I do plan on putting something in our local papers just to have them retract the abuse charges.
Not a good idea.
It'll make you a target all over again.firegal_gears wrote: Lawsuit...maybe...but can't afford any more lawyers. I honestly can't afford the one we got now.
Some people advise suing, but it takes years out of your life, not to mention the cost.
And there's no guarantee of the outcome.
If I thought someone had a good chance of suing CPS and winning I'd be the first to suggest it.
Stick to the goal, proving the allegations to be false or in your case not credible evidence of anything.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Best, Dan
My son wants to go to court with us, but so far no one has said whether he would be allowed or not.
You can ask your lawyer to request that the judge speak with your son.
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
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I will have to ask him tomorrow during the bail review hearing. We haven't had much time to spend with the lawyer so we usually end up leaving messages with his receptionist and then when the lawyer gets them he usually calls us back briefly to answer. If you have any ideas as to what usually happens during a bail review hearing please let me know. I can only hope that means he can possibly come home tomorrow....pray for us please! I don't want to get my hopes up, but we all just miss him sooooo much!
A bail review hearing is usually set when a defendent has bail set and can't make it, the defense lawyer asks for a "bail review hearing" to try and get the amount reduced..
Did your husband bail or bond out?
Did your husband bail or bond out?
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My advice is my opinion and not legal advice
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Not really sure, he was released on his own person recog, but under a 50,000 dollar bond that he doesn't have to pay unless he skips his court day, with the stipulation that he does not return to the home or have any contact with the boys until he goes to court. Do cases ever get thrown out at a bail review hearing???
he was released on his own person recog, but under a 50,000 dollar bond that he doesn't have to pay unless he skips his court day,
They are reviewing his bond...
with the stipulation that he does not return to the home or have any contact with the boys until he goes to court.
This is what they are reviewing, if he broke this stipulation they would raise his bond.....
Do cases ever get thrown out at a bail review hearing???
Sorry to say, I have never heard of 1....They aren't reviewing any evidence in the case..It ONLY has to do with the conditions of the bail/bond..
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A bad lawyer is worse then no lawyer and bad advice is worse then no advice....
My advice is my opinion and not legal advice
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A bad lawyer is worse then no lawyer and bad advice is worse then no advice....
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Nobody has mentioned a plea bargain as of yet...
The plea bargain will be offered just prior to the start of jury selection. The DA will keep you sweating for a LONG time first.
The injury doesn't support the allegation.
Exactly what the lawyer said when he told my husband and I that he couldn't see where the CPS came up with the charges.
Shhhh! You'll give me away....
That's what I tried to tell her (the CPS worker). I told her that with my children always being outside and always showing up with marks I gave up on trying to pin point them all the time.
DO NOT TRY and pinpoint anything.
"I don't know where or when it happened" is a legitimate answer.
You speculate how the injuries may have happened and the case worker will write "Parent gave numerous conflicting stories."
Also keep in mind my oldest (the one they claim as the "victim") just learned how to ride his bike without the training wheels on as of this month. So of course he would have scratches and bruises.
The first time I rode a bike sans training wheels I went thru a sticker bush.
FYI that was over a half century ago and about 100 feet from where I'm sitting right now!
Unless my boys come to me and say "hey Mommy this hurts" I don't go out of my way anymore for small bumps and bruises. Now if it's huge or painful looking, yes of course I ask and sometimes I get an answer and other times I get "I don't know". Now if the boys themselves haven't a clue how they got a mark how am I supposed to know?
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.
Well the DA better be prepared for it, I have every intention of letting them know exactly what happened, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God! If they didn't want it to come out in court that they badgered and harrassed an 8 year old child the day of his Easter party then they should have left well enough alone. My son wants to go to court with us, but so far no one has said whether he would be allowed or not.
Not gonna happen, but the DA might speak with him... I highly doubt it will ever get that far.
The situation is BS and the DA knows it.
Am I allowed to do my own safety plan...with your help of course...I am still trying to learn exactly what rights I have and how to go about exercising them.
You have the right to remain silent...
You have to be cordial to get CPS to change their position.
CPS is gonna freak out.
I would love to watch them squirm in their seats as they are put on the spot by my son...Though I know that probably wouldn't happen.
We don't want them to squirm. We want them to work with us.
Seriously, I would love to get the CPS worker in trouble though for all the pain and suffering she has caused my family, not to mention the financial strain that we are going to feel for quite a long time.
I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.
I can't thank you enough for helping me with all that I am going through. I wouldn't know where to start. Very basic simple stuff I guess if you know what you are doing...I haven't a clue.
I've written plenty... short and sweet.
You have a good point there, but with living in such a small area I hate the thought of people believing the lies. Do you have any suggestions as to how we could get the truth out there?
I hate knowing that their are so many families going through this and having their hands tied as to the options they have against the CPS. Just saying this isn't fair doesn't seem to fit the bill if you know what I mean.
Been there. LOTS.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Pink...thats all..just one little pink mark about an inch long on the side of his neck and this is the crap we have to deal with. I could understand it if my son had like a bruise in the shape of a hand around his neck or something that could without a doubt be proven he was abused, but come on a pink mark? Like I said before even the pediatrician checked my son after my husband was arrested and couldn't understand the big fuss. Which leads me to my next question...if the CPS worker truly believed my son was that injured and that abused why didn't she seek medical attention for my son? The pediatrician had no clue what was going on until I told him the situation, shouldn't the CPS worker have been the first person to contact my sons doctor???
Sure.
Ever heard "In the pink of health?"
"In the pink?"
Best, Dan
The plea bargain will be offered just prior to the start of jury selection. The DA will keep you sweating for a LONG time first.
The injury doesn't support the allegation.
Exactly what the lawyer said when he told my husband and I that he couldn't see where the CPS came up with the charges.
Shhhh! You'll give me away....
That's what I tried to tell her (the CPS worker). I told her that with my children always being outside and always showing up with marks I gave up on trying to pin point them all the time.
DO NOT TRY and pinpoint anything.
"I don't know where or when it happened" is a legitimate answer.
You speculate how the injuries may have happened and the case worker will write "Parent gave numerous conflicting stories."
Also keep in mind my oldest (the one they claim as the "victim") just learned how to ride his bike without the training wheels on as of this month. So of course he would have scratches and bruises.
The first time I rode a bike sans training wheels I went thru a sticker bush.
FYI that was over a half century ago and about 100 feet from where I'm sitting right now!
Unless my boys come to me and say "hey Mommy this hurts" I don't go out of my way anymore for small bumps and bruises. Now if it's huge or painful looking, yes of course I ask and sometimes I get an answer and other times I get "I don't know". Now if the boys themselves haven't a clue how they got a mark how am I supposed to know?
The DA doesn't want it to come out in court that CPS and the cops kept a kid from an Easter party till he cracked under the pressure.
Well the DA better be prepared for it, I have every intention of letting them know exactly what happened, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God! If they didn't want it to come out in court that they badgered and harrassed an 8 year old child the day of his Easter party then they should have left well enough alone. My son wants to go to court with us, but so far no one has said whether he would be allowed or not.
Not gonna happen, but the DA might speak with him... I highly doubt it will ever get that far.
The situation is BS and the DA knows it.
Am I allowed to do my own safety plan...with your help of course...I am still trying to learn exactly what rights I have and how to go about exercising them.
You have the right to remain silent...
You have to be cordial to get CPS to change their position.
CPS is gonna freak out.
I would love to watch them squirm in their seats as they are put on the spot by my son...Though I know that probably wouldn't happen.
We don't want them to squirm. We want them to work with us.
Seriously, I would love to get the CPS worker in trouble though for all the pain and suffering she has caused my family, not to mention the financial strain that we are going to feel for quite a long time.
firegal_gears wrote: I would love to have help writing something up for CPS,
I'll do that for you.
Very basic simple stuff.
I can't thank you enough for helping me with all that I am going through. I wouldn't know where to start. Very basic simple stuff I guess if you know what you are doing...I haven't a clue.
I've written plenty... short and sweet.
You have a good point there, but with living in such a small area I hate the thought of people believing the lies. Do you have any suggestions as to how we could get the truth out there?
I hate knowing that their are so many families going through this and having their hands tied as to the options they have against the CPS. Just saying this isn't fair doesn't seem to fit the bill if you know what I mean.
Been there. LOTS.
Pink!!!!! Please.
Pink...thats all..just one little pink mark about an inch long on the side of his neck and this is the crap we have to deal with. I could understand it if my son had like a bruise in the shape of a hand around his neck or something that could without a doubt be proven he was abused, but come on a pink mark? Like I said before even the pediatrician checked my son after my husband was arrested and couldn't understand the big fuss. Which leads me to my next question...if the CPS worker truly believed my son was that injured and that abused why didn't she seek medical attention for my son? The pediatrician had no clue what was going on until I told him the situation, shouldn't the CPS worker have been the first person to contact my sons doctor???
Sure.
Ever heard "In the pink of health?"
"In the pink?"
Best, Dan
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They are reviewing his bond...
So does that mean they could lower it as well?
This is what they are reviewing, if he broke this stipulation they would raise his bond.....
He has not broke the stipulation by any means..no contact at all except the boys have colored him pictures and I have given them to him.
Sorry to say, I have never heard of 1....They aren't reviewing any evidence in the case..It ONLY has to do with the conditions of the bail/bond..
Is there anything that we can do to change that?
The plea bargain will be offered just prior to the start of jury selection. The DA will keep you sweating for a LONG time first.
How is it legal that they can put us through so much without any real concern for the childrens well being? I thought it was there job to do what was right for the children, all they are doing is causing my children (not to mention myself) more heartache the longer they drag this out.
DO NOT TRY and pinpoint anything.
"I don't know where or when it happened" is a legitimate answer.
You speculate how the injuries may have happened and the case worker will write "Parent gave numerous conflicting stories."
I honestly never thought of it that way. I mean they are kids and with the cop standing there I figured he would at least realize you can't always know every little detail about that kind of stuff. I did at first tell her that I didn't know how or when it happened, and she kept drilling me. That's when I told her that I could not give her an exact answer.
The first time I rode a bike sans training wheels I went thru a sticker bush.
No sticker bushes here, but lots and lots of rocks. We share a driveway with a truck weigh in station for farmers, the whole thing is filled with rocks. That is where he has learned to ride his bike, and he did very well. Still though, he has falled, especially when he tries to pull off stunts IE "popping a wheely" as he would say it. He has not quite mastered this stunt but not for a lack of trying. What am I supposed to do as his mother? Tell him no honey you can't do that because you might get a bruise? Yes I tell him to be careful, and he always wears his safety gear, but he is a boy. I can not and will not stop him from having a "normal" childhood and doing things he is interested in unless I know he will without a doubt get hurt or cause pain or damage to someone or something else.
Not gonna happen, but the DA might speak with him... I highly doubt it will ever get that far.
The situation is BS and the DA knows it.
I wish the DA would speak with my son, at least then the truth would be out there. I hope it doesn't have to go that far either but only because I don't want my son to have to be intimidated anymore by the CPS worker. Plus I know my husband is innocent, it is so plain to see, everyone who knows my husband knows this is BS. Why these people have to make this drag out and damage my children emotionally is beyond me. The sad part is my oldest son refused to eat any candy on Easter morning because Daddy couldn't be there. Now come on...an 8 year old boy refuse to eat his Easter candy on Easter Sunday....what's wrong with that picture??
You have the right to remain silent...
I have yet another rebuttle, my husband was NEVER read his Miranda Rights. Yes I'm sure he knew his rights, however he was NEVER read his rights. Not here at the house, when they arrested him in front of my youngest son, or even in the police car. Now I know that is a violation of his rights.
We don't want them to squirm. We want them to work with us.
How am I supposed to get them to do that? According to the County Commissioner, it was the CPS that made the decision to have my husband arrested.
Ever heard "In the pink of health?"
"In the pink?"
Can't say that I have...could you clarify that one???
So does that mean they could lower it as well?
This is what they are reviewing, if he broke this stipulation they would raise his bond.....
He has not broke the stipulation by any means..no contact at all except the boys have colored him pictures and I have given them to him.
Sorry to say, I have never heard of 1....They aren't reviewing any evidence in the case..It ONLY has to do with the conditions of the bail/bond..
Is there anything that we can do to change that?
The plea bargain will be offered just prior to the start of jury selection. The DA will keep you sweating for a LONG time first.
How is it legal that they can put us through so much without any real concern for the childrens well being? I thought it was there job to do what was right for the children, all they are doing is causing my children (not to mention myself) more heartache the longer they drag this out.
DO NOT TRY and pinpoint anything.
"I don't know where or when it happened" is a legitimate answer.
You speculate how the injuries may have happened and the case worker will write "Parent gave numerous conflicting stories."
I honestly never thought of it that way. I mean they are kids and with the cop standing there I figured he would at least realize you can't always know every little detail about that kind of stuff. I did at first tell her that I didn't know how or when it happened, and she kept drilling me. That's when I told her that I could not give her an exact answer.
The first time I rode a bike sans training wheels I went thru a sticker bush.
No sticker bushes here, but lots and lots of rocks. We share a driveway with a truck weigh in station for farmers, the whole thing is filled with rocks. That is where he has learned to ride his bike, and he did very well. Still though, he has falled, especially when he tries to pull off stunts IE "popping a wheely" as he would say it. He has not quite mastered this stunt but not for a lack of trying. What am I supposed to do as his mother? Tell him no honey you can't do that because you might get a bruise? Yes I tell him to be careful, and he always wears his safety gear, but he is a boy. I can not and will not stop him from having a "normal" childhood and doing things he is interested in unless I know he will without a doubt get hurt or cause pain or damage to someone or something else.
Not gonna happen, but the DA might speak with him... I highly doubt it will ever get that far.
The situation is BS and the DA knows it.
I wish the DA would speak with my son, at least then the truth would be out there. I hope it doesn't have to go that far either but only because I don't want my son to have to be intimidated anymore by the CPS worker. Plus I know my husband is innocent, it is so plain to see, everyone who knows my husband knows this is BS. Why these people have to make this drag out and damage my children emotionally is beyond me. The sad part is my oldest son refused to eat any candy on Easter morning because Daddy couldn't be there. Now come on...an 8 year old boy refuse to eat his Easter candy on Easter Sunday....what's wrong with that picture??
You have the right to remain silent...
I have yet another rebuttle, my husband was NEVER read his Miranda Rights. Yes I'm sure he knew his rights, however he was NEVER read his rights. Not here at the house, when they arrested him in front of my youngest son, or even in the police car. Now I know that is a violation of his rights.
We don't want them to squirm. We want them to work with us.
How am I supposed to get them to do that? According to the County Commissioner, it was the CPS that made the decision to have my husband arrested.
Ever heard "In the pink of health?"
"In the pink?"
Can't say that I have...could you clarify that one???
As I thought about your son and what happened at school it has made me so mad and more determined to fight these people with all that I have.
Your son was violated. Stripping him buck naked by two strangers is horrifying to say the least for a young child.
Children at that age do not even like to strip at a drs. office. They are very private at this age, at least my children and grandchildren were.
Your son was violated. Stripping him buck naked by two strangers is horrifying to say the least for a young child.
Children at that age do not even like to strip at a drs. office. They are very private at this age, at least my children and grandchildren were.
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom
To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).
Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour
"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1
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It's kind of like adding salt to a wound, trust me I know the feeling. Yes my son was violated and he feels it. When I took him to see his pediatrician (who he has ALWAYS gone to since birth) he didn't even want his dr. to check him out. Which for my children yes they hate to be seen naked but they have always been told they could trust this dr and up until now have never had any problems letting the dr check them out. My oldest son all but cried when I told him that the dr was just making sure he was really ok and that it would be over quickly. That was a response I have never seen my children take with their dr. My son was begging "Mommy I don't have bruises, please can I just keep my jeans on?" It broke my heart because I could understand where he was coming from but at the same time I wanted his dr to have it noted that this child was not beaten and bruised all up. So I did make him strip long enough to just have the dr look, nothing else. To hear his voice echo in my head is just killing me inside.
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