Are the cops on CPS's side?

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Are the cops on CPS's side?

Postby JollySheila » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:11 pm

mutual, or on our side? can they be trusted? just wondering if any1 is on our side .....

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Postby Frustrated » Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:23 pm

MOST OF THE TIME Cops are on CPS' Side. They have to obey orders.

Very few, maybe only one or two cops, would go in favor of the Parents. But the Majority of Cops would go in favor of CPS. Because they don't want to piss off the wrong people higher up's.

Sad but true. I know for a fact that Cops have seen so much that they don't agree what CPS had done to innocent Families but they have to follow orders. One of the Cops told me that he has to follow orders or he would be forced Desk Duty.
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Postby JollySheila » Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:09 pm

thanks, frustrated, exactly what i thought.............

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Postby unfairjustice05 » Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:59 pm

Heck yes they are and that was obvious when they came with CPS to take my then 16 year old son.They laughed and carried on after they got him to come out of the truck.
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Postby Frustrated » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:05 pm

Don't you hate it when you see them laugh and snicker while they do it? They even laughed at me when they were so happy that they made a new Case against me for Emotional Harm?

The most toughest case to prove, and they just made me a Statistic to prove their "so called cause" to show the State or Country that "it exists".

I just wished some one can wipe a smile off their faces and make them learn and to "feel" what we are feeling...

Should we jump for joy that they are gone? Would they interpret it different? They always wondered why we always cry? THEN THEY ORDER A PSCH> EVAL????? :shock: Just because we cry? that our Children are gone? removed?

Next time we should jump for joy and see what their reaction to that???? I wonder if they interpret it as "positive" and crying as "negative"??? They are the ones that are sickos! and NEEDS PSCH> EVAL!!!! Because they laughed and snickers while they remove the Children?
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Postby hls94137 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:36 am

I believe that the cops know what is going on but feel they are only doing their job. In my case everytime the cops and cps were at my house the cops didnt say anything. even the night they removed my children one of the officers asked my friend that was here if he was going to stay with me all night because what just happened wasnt right, told him he sees it all the time. what cowards! Oh and about the psych eval, crying and all that.......well i was told i was emotionally unstable so they are gonna ask for a psych eval. I just looked at them and said YA THINK!! who wouldnt be when they have just had the very thing that means the most to them, the foundation of their world ripped away. I mean really now!!!

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Postby Frustrated » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:49 am

Yes I agree. I think it is totally ABSURDITY when they order Psch. Evaluations when you are just crying...

CAN'T THEY SEE?! ARE THEY BLIND< DEAF or just plain stupid?

We cry because our Children were removed unjustly and these Children means the world to us. Don't they care?!

Maybe we should jump for joy, eh? Whooo Kids are gone! yahhhh....maybe that would satisfy CPS Workers?? Or maybe they will order Psch. Eval for that one too? Where is the middle ground?

HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ACT?! just sit there and stare at the wall?

Of course, IT IS NATURAL TO CRY! OUR CHILDREN ARE THE WORLD TO US!

If they "think" that is not natural THEN THEY ARE SICKOS! They are the ONES that needs Psch. Eval for interpreting wrong and completely wrong things on the Parent's emotions.
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Postby Momof31995 » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:12 am

i had a parental safety assessment done and a psych eval.

i was emotional during my psych eval and the shrink put in the report i was overly emotional. and they used that against me saying i needed counseling.

for parental safety assessment i just answered her questions and wanted to cry but i held it in so this evaluator put i her report that i was cold and unemotional.
How can i win?

and now this same evaluator is who they cjhose for family counseling!!!

and with all they have stacked against us we beat them at their own game our kids are being returned to us.
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Postby good dad » Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:25 am

I have to disagree...I know a few cops, talk to 1 in N.M. almost everday....

Most know what a messed up system it is and they go out of their way to find a relative to place the children with before calling CPS. This applies to parents that are open and honest with them and only to "police calls"

Tick them off and CPS can and will be used as a weapon.

If the case is initiated by CPS and police are asked to come with, they are usually quiet, they know how CPS helps.. :roll:
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Postby Frustrated » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:45 pm

I agree with you Good Dad, that happen often around here with certain Cops I talk to with. Some Cops are good and they already know what CPS are like, and they even will help diffuse the situation before the CPS comes in the picture. I even talk to them almost monthly. They even joke around how CPS operates like a robot that have to answer to their Supervisor. etc...etc...

But there are bad Cops also that would share the CPS' Power Ego Trips. These Bad Cops are the ones that would like to boast and make new Cases out of Criminal Cases so they can get promoted to their title. There was one Cop who was a woman, and she even alleges that the Families around here are Drug Dealers so she can make a Case out of them so she can make herself look good at the Police Station. :roll:
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My experience with the police

Postby Michael » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:59 am

Poice officers are use to workig under the Texas criminal code and do not understand the Texas Family Code as it applies to CPS.

I find that the police want CPS to remove on far more cases than CPS finds necessary.

I have had police question my on the scene decisions on many occasions. Not just mine but most CPS Inv. workers.

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My experience with the police

Postby Michael » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:00 am

Poice officers are use to workig under the Texas criminal code and do not understand the Texas Family Code as it applies to CPS.

I find that the police want CPS to remove on far more cases than CPS finds necessary.

I have had police question my on the scene decisions on many occasions. Not just mine but most CPS Inv. workers.

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Postby Frustrated » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:38 am

Micheal: you say "I find that Police want CPS to remove on far much more cases than CPS find necessary."

Please explain. Say again? This seems vague.
It is easy to steal from poor people. But don't do it. And don't take advantage of those poor people in court. The Lord is on their side. He supports them and he will take things away from any person that takes from them.~ Proverbs 22:22

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Postby dasuberding » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:26 am

Cops are not lawyers, they are just law enforcement. If they are lied to by a public servant, they are going to act on those lies, taking everything the cw says as fact. Why would a public servant lie. The ones who are naive don't know better and the ones who know, don't stop the cw's. Serve and protect, my ass! I guess in this way, cops are guilty and not guilty at the same time. I have heard of cases where the cops did know what they were doing, knew it was wrong, yet did it anyway. One case was that $2.6 million one in CA just recently. Two corrupt cops helped a divorced mom (a friend) unlawfully remove the child from custody of the father and then handed the child over to the goons, who were only to happy to "help" the evil mother. Now the two cops have been ordered by a federal judge to pay $2 million to the father and child, the county picks up the rest of the judgement. Those two cops will be sending their paychecks to the father for the rest of their lives. Of course, the cops are trying to appeal but it's going to get them nowhere.

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Postby MNNaNa » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:01 am

It is like any profession, there are bad ones and there are good ones.

Mostly though the cops are more apt to make decisions based on fact, where as we all know the social workers base decisions on what they "think". (and quotas and money)

It is a sad world.
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Postby JennaRae » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:27 am

I was told by the detective that CPS can not ask leading questions but they can! They are not on your side.... they even told me once that they are not the bad guys and everyone should trust them..then they take your words and twist them to mean what they want them to mean..

I learned the hard way.. don't talk to them without an atty being present...

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Postby dasuberding » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:27 am

Bottom line, and I wish I could spread the word as fast as the speed of light, if a social worker or caseworker comes into your life, prepared to be screwed. Social workers are not "social" at all and work for the state and have the state's best interests at heart. If you truly need "help", go private and charity, not to the state. I consider ALL social workers and pending social workers, SCUM. Socialists, a political and social system that just breeds apathy and big government, the complete opposite of my world views. I don't care if you want to "help", I don't care if your "not in it for the money", I don't care if "you had a hard life growing up and want to prevent something". I don't care if you read Hillary's "It taked a village" and thought it was a good idea. This is America and you don't force your views and opinions down innocent people's throats. As for cops, there are good ones and corrupt ones and if they break the law, I think they should be held to a higher standard, thrown into prison without protection, and the key thrown away. The same for incompetent, unethical social workers.


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