Governor Bush possibly in with DCF

[McKnights]

Why are letters refering to problems and mishandle cases with the DCF, CPS, DCFS, sent to Governor Bush, He then turns it over to the same Department that this letter is claiming is in violation, This is really kinda stupid, but if there is a problem with an organization, do you think by sending this letter to them, its gonna change, wrong it wont, they will not admit any wrong doing, as its there job at stake if there was, why would someone willing give this info up, this is completely BS, also if people can call up this organization and makes false claims without telling who they are, then why cant the people, we makes claims about an organization, one of which the govern has assigned someone to run while he is in office, its gets send to that organization, not local police, not state police, not even the FBI, which should do something about this ongoing violation of the Constitutional Rights, everyday i can bet, there is at least one Constitutional Right being Violated in the US by CPS, but who can stop them they are above the law, they are the courts, the are the governor, hell i but they are even the president

[McKnights]

This correspondence is being forwarded at the request of Nancy Dreicer,
District Administrator:

(My Name and address

Dear Mr. Ware:

Thank you for your July 23 and July 26 emails to Governor Bush regarding
your daughter, Christina Ware. The Governor asked that I respond to
you on his behalf.

I can appreciate the concern you have for the welfare of your daughter and
I am sorry you feel the Department of Children and Families was unfair in
removing Christina from your care. I can assure you that all reports of
abuse, neglect or abandonment that are received through the Florida Abuse
Hotline are thoroughly investigated, reviewed by a Child Protective
Investigator Supervisor and overseen by a Child Protection Program
Administrator.

(** IF THEY ARE FULLY INVESTIGATED, SHOW ME THE DAMN REPORT ON THE INVESTIGATION.**))


A review of your situation revealed that your daughter was removed from
your care in March 2004 due to previous history with the Department
involving your son and your inability to maintain stable housing. Your
daughter was found to have significant developmental and genetic issues and
it was determined that the child would be at risk if left in your care.

((** lIVED IN THIS SAME APARTMENT FOR TWO YEARS, WHATS IS THEIR TERM OF STABLE, YES SHE IS DELAYED BUT WHY, ANSWER THIS, NO DOCTORS HAVE SAID ANYTHING ON WHAT HAS/IS CAUSING THEM, WHAT GENETICS ARE YOU REFERING TO, HER GENETICS DOCTOR DIDNT POINT OUT ANYTHING GENETICALLY WRONG WITH HER, SO WHAT GENETICS**))


Your case was assigned to the Child Guidance Center, a community based
services provider under contract with Family Support Services of North
Florida, to develop a case plan and assist you with services in completing
the tasks of the case plan.
The goal of the case plan was for you to be reunited with your daughter.
Unfortunately, instead of completing a case plan, your case went to trial
in February of this year. I understand the trial ended on July 5 and the
Court’s decision to terminate your parental rights is currently under
appeal. The Governor does not have the authority to intervene in actions
of the court.

((**SHOW ME WERE THE ASSISTED IN THE CASE PLAN, THEY SAY OUR APARTMENT WAS TO SMALL NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR 2 ADULTS AND TWO CHILD, SHOULD I SAY POVERTY, AND SHOW ME WHERE THE REFERED US TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT WOULD HELP US OUT ON FINDING ANOTHER PLACE THE WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR 2 ADULTS AND 2 CHILDREN**))

((** THE GOAL ON PAPER WAS REUNIFICATION, GOAL THEY HAD WAS ADOPTION**))

((**cOMPLETEING THE CASE PLAN, LETS SEE WHY, WE DO ONE THING WRONG AND THEY MENTION IT, NO MATTER THE SIZE OR CURCUMSTANCE OF IT, BUT WHEN WE DID DO SOMETHING THEY ASKED, THEY TOLD LIES AND BS STORIES TO COVER THE TRUTH**))

((**THE COURTS ARE IN VIOLATION, THEY ALLOWED TESTIMONY FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE INCOMPITENT TO TAKE NOTES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT EXPERIANCED IN THE FIELD OF PARENTING, MAKE JUDGEMENTS OVER PARENTS WHEN THEY THEMSELF HAVE NO DAMN IDEA ON WHAT BEING A PARENT IS LIKE**))

A detailed review of your case is being conducted by the Department to
uncover, if any, violations of law or policy in the handling of your case.
This review is expected to take approximately three weeks and we will
notify you of our findings.

((** DCF IS DOING THIS INVESTIGATION, WHAT WILL THEY FIND**))


Thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention. Please understand
the inability of the Governor to assist you with your situation is not due
to a lack of concern, but a lack of jurisdiction. Should you have further
questions or concerns, please contact Mr. Timothy Ring, Client Relations
Specialist, at (904) 723-2148.

((**BS, BS, BS, IF HE IS CONCERN HE WOULD NOT HAVE SENT IT TO THE VIOLATOR, HE WOOULD NOT HAVE SENT IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO COMMITED THE CRIME**))

Sincerely,



Nancy Dreicer
District Administrator

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     Diane Seymore, Program Management Director
     Andrea Trzcinski, District Program Manager
     Jim Adams, CEO, Family Support Services of North Florida
     Veronica Valentine, Executive Director, Child Guidance Center
     Cecily Hardin, Director of Family Services, Child Guidance Center
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Since i am the intended recipient of this letter, then its at my discretion to reproduce and Distribute this letter as i see fit to

[Frustrated]

Of course they are. Just remember there are Money involved and Burecrats make sure everyone involved gets the money...they just don't care.

If more Families protest in higher number, the more they will be heard. It has to be in the Millions to object about their Government Agency acting in Corruption but remember they will say that these CPS Agencies IS NOT Government nor State...it is ummm Privately organized, but still gets Government Money? It should be GOVERNMENT if they are RECEIVING STATE FUND MONEY! I don't care if it was non-profit whatever they call themselves. It is GOVERNMENT no matter how you look at it. They are just crooked as the next Mafia, but in fact they are worse than Enron. Just won't admit it and they do cover up's fairly well.

[florida999]

so your case is actually somewhat old, your child was removed in march of 2004? they have already tried to TPR? it says in the email that they offered you a case plan with reunification as a goal, did you complete any of the tasks on the case plan? to be honest two years to TPR is normally longer then most people get, normally the go for tpr 9-12 months after the child is removed. in regards to unstable houseing what were you living in one bedroom, two bedroom, a studio, what exactly was wrong?

[McKnights]

so your case is actually somewhat old, your child was removed in march of 2004? they have already tried to TPR? it says in the email that they offered you a case plan with reunification as a goal, did you complete any of the tasks on the case plan? to be honest two years to TPR is normally longer then most people get, normally the go for tpr 9-12 months after the child is removed. in regards to unstable houseing what were you living in one bedroom, two bedroom, a studio, what exactly was wrong?

Actaully to correct you, the case for our son was tpr'ed, our daughter on the other hand is as of issue, TPR was just issued on our son, during 2004 was the removal our duaghter and not of the tpr of her

[florida999]

your daughter was removed in 2004. they will be looking to tpr, she has been in the system for too long. your documenting alot of what your doing right now, but what have you done in the past two years? you havent really havent said anything about that. what you have done over the past two years is going to hold much more weight then anything you try to do now. the key to fighting these people is to be proactive-as soon as your children are taken. you cant sit for two years and do nothing and then start jumping when they start talking tpr, your not going to win. i have asked in previous posts what you have done to correct the issues they have with your family, but you really havent answered. you havent really stated apart from the housing and medical issues what else the problems were. for example did they offer you cas paln with the daughter? what tasks were on the case plan? what tasks did you complete? what did you not complete and why?

[Momoffor]

Why are letters refering to problems and mishandle cases with the DCF, CPS, DCFS, sent to Governor Bush, He then turns it over to the same Department that this letter is claiming is in violation,

The reason why, and no matter what you would love to believe is because there is still a proper chain on command that must be followed. Govenors cannot get personally involved with DHS cases. They can make comments, and they can turn it over to be investigated. Which is what happened when he turned the letter back over to them. The letters should be getting turned over to the ombudsman office if there is one in your state.

This is redundant because no one really watches over CPS and their doings.

[Frustrated]

While sending letters to Governors, cc. to the Ombudsman Office while you are it and also cc. to Commissioner of Social Services, or Director of Social Services depending on your area. Chain of events leading back to you. heck, cc. to the Media. Your Life is an Open Book with CPS and they know everything about you anyways. People already know you are a Child Abuser registered in the Abuse Registry. IT IS UP TO YOU to make that change and make changes/reform to CPS by bringing this attention to everyone how corrupt and how they abuse the system. I have had one person telling me "I can't believe they would do this, no way...they are pretty good Organization." This is the person that is very completely clueless of what's going on behind closed doors. It is our responsibility to bring that attention to the clueless people and make them wake up and see what is REALLY going on! The more people knowing about this, the more support we can have to protest this all the way to the Senate! Even to Supreme Courts if we have to!

[McKnights]

***This is the letter as to which i replied to the above letter***

Well, lets start here, one if you have investigated this case, then why do i not remember you contacting me, who is in fact the one who has sent out the claim, now how can you say they have done everything to the rules and regulations, when in fact i have only stated things said in court, and one thing other then that, I will not accept this so called review as it is not done correctly, though i understand what you mean by review, you have went through the case file and i would say transcripts of the trial, though not sure on what documents you have reviewed, There are 2 sides to every story and from what you just said, you only have one of them, if its the notes and reports (Documents) of CGC then this is one thing i am claiming to be falsely done, either by misread, misheard information, or intenially miswriten information, Which will not say in the reports due to the incompitent knowledge in the reports, I only want to be heard the way i should be heard, and the way i will be heard, All i ask is to be able to give you my side, and then and if and i do mean if you feel the same then i will accept your review, though disreguard your findings, as i do now, All i want is my daughter, as to which i feel has been taken from us, If your view on the case changes, and motions are carried out to return my daughter to our home, then i here by wave any further legal actions against DCF, i do not want anything in terms of damages for the time lost, and time spend doing the tasks in the case plan, that would be returned to me every day i get to spend with my daughter, All i ask is a proper chance to speak with the investigator during this review, either in person or over the phone, prefer in person though, and at your time and place of which for this to be done, please respond to this with anything you like, though i do hope you understand i mean no threats or disrespect towards you or anyone involved, I do understand there are children being abused and neglected, And i do understand DCF still has concerns over our daughter and us, but i do not feel we have been properly given the chance to show this, and if you are willing, i will tell you how the is.

[Harlan Carroll]

I don't think this is unique to Governor Bush. In my opinion it is practically impossible to find a politician that isn't in bed with CPS. I bet it's rare to find a judge that isn't in bed with CPS. Certainly in my case my own judge basically defers to CPS at the drop of a hat. At our last permenancy hearing he basically hang on allowing CPS to press for termination of parental rights, after I impassionately debunked a myth CPS fabricated in front of him.

Then after I said my peice the judge asked CPS if there was any other reason to file for TPR, because the reason they gave (thanks to my actions) didn't hold water.

And the case worker said "because of history."

That's it. One word. History. And the judge went ahead and set up a trial for TPR. And my lawyer and I clamored to have it be a trial by jury. No way in hell am I going to let a judge be the final arbiter of my family's fate. Because even though they are supposed to be the one true objective arbiter here, ultimately I just don't see that they are. Not from what I've seen in cases in family court so far.

[Momoffor]

I believe that it is the freedom of information act that has a line in there about at any time the information has to be given to you in a manner that you understand. I am sorry but its very late and I am too tired to look up the exact wording and which act it is. But if you just send a letter stating you would like to go over the case file in a manner that is understood blah blah as per blah blah and CC it to the correct people ect, it will get a little more than the letter that you wrote.

If your post is exactly the same as the one you sent, it sounds very angry, rightfully so, but dont let that show. Always remain professional and write business letters. Yours is full of anger, hate and threats even though it says you dont mean to threaten, your letter threatens legal action. There is nothing wrong with legal action, but dont let your anger and hatred show that blatantly. Just my 2 cents.

[McKnights]

I believe that it is the freedom of information act that has a line in there about at any time the information has to be given to you in a manner that you understand. I am sorry but its very late and I am too tired to look up the exact wording and which act it is. But if you just send a letter stating you would like to go over the case file in a manner that is understood blah blah as per blah blah and CC it to the correct people ect, it will get a little more than the letter that you wrote.

If your post is exactly the same as the one you sent, it sounds very angry, rightfully so, but dont let that show. Always remain professional and write business letters. Yours is full of anger, hate and threats even though it says you dont mean to threaten, your letter threatens legal action. There is nothing wrong with legal action, but dont let your anger and hatred show that blatantly. Just my 2 cents.

well this was part of a mass mailing out, this was received by multiple people, and yes i was a little angry in this, because they are refusing to hear anything other then DCF words, this would be like asking ted bundy, if he killed all those people, and he said no and they let him go, This is unfair Justice

I only want to be heard the way i should be heard, and the way i will be heard,
this sounds down right angry yes, but overall they can not deny it, Admendment 1 os the Constiutional Rights states other wise, Freedom of Speach, and so i will be heard, though im given them full control to settle this issue on their own

your letter threatens legal action. There is nothing wrong with legal

actually no it doesnt, if they gave me a chance to talk, it says i wave all further legal action against DCF, if our daughter is returned home, this could stand and i will keep this waver and if she is through this mean of attempt, then i will not sue dcf over it, but its to show all i want is my daughter, nothing else, so actually that isnt a threat, now if they refuse to do review this on my terms then the waver is void, and if this happens then this same people become involved in the cover-up,b this includes Gov Bush

[florida999]

I feel very sorry for you, with the attitude you have your never going to beat dcf. you seem to think you have the power here; you dont-they do, they have your daughter. your never going to win this way....you only going to make it worse.

[Anonymous]

Mcknight I toatlly agree with you brother! DCF has fucked up my life. Im a NONOFFENDING STEP DAD. I had to move out. this is the only way my wife would get her kids back. Hell they were not even removed from our home. I have violent crime or anything. they just want me gone. We have also got the same letters. I think its a typical computer program.



Im fighting the same battle bro.

[McKnights]

Mcknight I toatlly agree with you brother! DCF has fucked up my life. Im a NONOFFENDING STEP DAD. I had to move out. this is the only way my wife would get her kids back. Hell they were not even removed from our home. I have violent crime or anything. they just want me gone. We have also got the same letters. I think its a typical computer program.



Im fighting the same battle bro.

Post your letter or send it to me privately, if you dont mind
the one to which you recieved fom gov bush

[Anonymous]

http://fightcps.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... sc&start=0

Its on this forum.

[McKnights]

well that reply hasnt turned up anything, no in its direct way, got a call from Timothy Ring, at first i thought the letter actually did something, but later recieved a call from Hank Rogers,Legistrator for Audrey Gibson (Florida Representative) telling me the Joanna Hatcher, which Mr.rogers called to contact me, has set forth a full investigation into the case plan, so this here voids the waver, they are doing it cause of a request of someone else, though really all i want is my daughter and thats it, as long as two certain people be charged with Perjury and defemtion of character, i will not persue anything, Mr.Ring was notified to look on the transcripts of the court though i didnt mention the occurance as to what should be noticed on the reports only gave the person to which said it, also notified him of 2 court orders that gareenteed at least one occurence of something and neither one has taken place. more to come

[Anonymous]

i have been thinking about this problem within the state of floriaduh. and I agree why would bush have DCF look into themselfs? Its a waring to them that we have made a complante and to plan a little something extra for the parents.

[McKnights]

well thorn, ive got dcf thinking i will not persue anything, if i get my daughter back, but pay attention to the wording of it, it doenst mean i will not go after the individuals involved

[Anonymous]

civil action can be brought against the case worker? Really ALL involved need the same fate.

[McKnights]

civil action can be brought against the case worker? Really ALL involved need the same fate.

Well if everything is seen with the investigation that they are doing it should be seen, and if it is, then there is no choice, PERJURY
(BTW this is a 10 year offense)

[McKnights]

Update: Tuesday at 1pm, there is an investigator coming in from tallahassee, coming to talk about the case plan and the details to which when the CW lied on the stand, even going to show her the file which was the conversation between my fiance and the foster mother, going to mention on how they complained about things like the apartment, driving and otherr stuff, and how the didnt provide the referals, or suggestions to these issues, also going to bring up on how they didnt give us the court ordered visitations with our son, and didnt even give us the unsupervisitation that was also court ordered, there are multiple contradicting statements and information like adjudacation dates, and addresses. will let yall know how things went, the ball is rolling, its taken its kerosene bath, have lighter in hand hehehehe

[McKnights]

Foster Parent (Mother)(8/6/2006 10:04:27 PM): The baliff also kept yelling at me to "move up and act like I was involved" and I didnt want to be...so you can imagine I was in a shy mode.

NOW NOW, hold up here, WTF, they claim my fiance is shy and doesnt talk much, now what is this, another contradiction??
Actuially dont know why im surprised, its all contradictions lol
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Foster Parent (Mother)(8/6/2006 10:01:46 PM): I know. We all have bills. Life is so repititous.

But when talking to my fiance she told her that she pays her bills, and her tickets, what the hell is going on here, saying it like we didnt do that.

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Foster Parent (Mother)(8/6/2006 9:47:17 PM): I can understand. She should be sad. You gave her alot of support and strength that it was possible and you are still trying to proceed. Good luck.

LMAO Only if she knew what is going on, personally this will be funny

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Foster Parent (Mother)(8/6/2006 9:46:09 PM): Youa re too smart to waste your time playing chess when you could be getting a degree.

Now, recently called FCCJ to get my GED, after that will proceed to law school, yes people thats right i said it, but will be it the field of dependecy and TPR, but the point is they say im not smart enough to learn about child needs, but yet she thinks i can get a degree
Contradiction #152697845256 lol


Plain and simple my fiance isnt the strongest, and my IQ when it comes to remember things is much higher then hers, not to say anything that i am better then she is, but they just know i will not put up with the same SH** they do to my fiance

[McKnights]

Foster Parent (Mother)(8/6/2006 9:30:42 PM): I am not in favor of the FNC. I do not like her being transported by strangers to that location. That is all I have a negative feeling about at this time. I am not represented in court by an attorney, so I stay quiet. Just like (Biological Mother) does.

LOL Keep talking, add more to it, lets see, im gonna change the names yet again and post it as well, lets see how much of a difference there is in terms of respect to my fiance and I

[McKnights]

Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:26:21 PM): how is (Child) doing
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:26:44 PM): She's fine and how are you, im fine
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:27:01 PM): im doing good
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:27:13 PM): mind if i ask a question
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:27:31 PM): what is it
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:28:07 PM): why did you not promote visitations with (Child) after you told us that we would be able to see her, if we was TPR'ed
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:28:46 PM): I did not tell the DCF attorney to say that and no one asked me my opinion. I was not addressed by the judge so I wasnt sure if I was part to it all.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:29:33 PM): well they couldnt have stopped you from doing so, though i can understand what you mean
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:29:56 PM): the 1st admendment is freedom of speech, they couldnt have stopped you without violating that
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:30:42 PM): I am not in favor of the FNC. I do not like her being transported by strangers to that location. That is all I have a negative feeling about at this time. I am not represented in court by an attorney, so I stay quiet. Just like (Biological Mother) does.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:31:28 PM): (Biological Mother) is that way, but thats just part of who she is though
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:32:05 PM): but she isnt always that way, but this is coming from me who knows her alot better then anyone involved in this case
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:32:45 PM): My preference would have been to do a visit at a McDonalds with both of us so she would be most comfortable. However, (Biological Mother) has not seemed like she has wanted that lately so I just listened.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:33:13 PM): I was suprised when (DCF Lawyer) said " the foster parent doesnt.....
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:33:32 PM): I get a little nervous in court with the big audience behind us.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:33:47 PM): I usually loose my voice and breath at the same time
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:34:08 PM): i can understand that, its like being on stage in fronyt of 1,000 people
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:34:17 PM): **Front
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:35:24 PM): Well alot of them are peers and I think that court should be confidential and that they should not get to listen in.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:35:29 PM): when (DCF Lawyer) said that you should have said something, there was times i wanted to say something over what someone said but i knew the proceedings of the trial, but if it was a hearing i would have done it
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:36:24 PM): It moves too fast and he had 160 cases ont he docket. I was not about to say one word. I wasnt sure what the hearing was about anyway.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:36:58 PM): i was about to say something about when she said that you didnt want it, because it came just as a shock after you told us we would still be able to see her
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:39:16 PM): I have not changed my mind about after adoption. She has been sick lately though and the added appointments are not easy. She was at the Dr on Thursday and out of school Thurs and Fri. She had a very high fever and needed to rest. So a visit on Friday would be inappropriately scheduled. I like a little more freedom. But (Biological Mother) acted as if she didnt want (Child) with me so I didnt know what you two wanted anymore.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:41:01 PM): well She wants her home
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:41:09 PM): so you can understand that right
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:41:31 PM): bye
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:41:37 PM): sorry wrong im
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:42:14 PM): someone just trying to get to the us being nosy lol
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:42:24 PM): us = USA
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:42:27 PM): I understand that. But she was talking about with someone other than me if she couldnt come home. At this point it is best what is for the baby, and she is doing well here.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:43:10 PM): when did she say all that?
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:43:43 PM): she loves each and every person in the family, she hugs, kisses, laughs, plays, flirts...she beleives she is one of us and she has been. I know you cant imagine. I cant play now, I have some work to do.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:44:08 PM): I would need to concentrate.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:44:38 PM): (Biological Mother) said thatin our last email, she wanted her with your family or anyone other than me. She changed drastically.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:45:01 PM): well im currently playing in QueenAlice.com, and Schemingmind.com, which are correspondence chess
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:45:48 PM): Im trying to apply to schools on line to further my education. How would you like to get your GED?
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:45:57 PM): well she is feeling down on all that took place, even me, but im more acceptable to it then she is, through everything i have been through with the family and growing up
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:46:09 PM): Youa re too smart to waste your time playing chess when you could be getting a degree.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:46:33 PM): actually i called FCCJ sat. on that need to call back up there tomorrow
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:47:17 PM): I can understand. She should be sad. You gave her alot of support and strength that it was possible and you are still trying to proceed. Good luck.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:48:12 PM): since the trial i have taken a leave of absent, was getting very aggrevated with the way things were done and how the managers handled the problems, right now i am working with my father
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:48:55 PM): course Dave (Shipping Supervisor) agreed to it as he seen the change
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:49:08 PM): though he didnt like it
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:50:09 PM): also i was looking at the JR report from march 1, 2006 i think it was
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:50:39 PM): it said we declined visiting (Child) at the hospital
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:50:59 PM): i do not recall ever declining something like that
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:51:35 PM): you didnt
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:52:03 PM): You stayed over night with her on the second hospitalization.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:52:35 PM): i thought we did on both occurances? maybe the first was with LJ, or we wasnt allowed to
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:54:17 PM): i know we stayed over with him after the heart surgery, maybe i ahve them mixed around somehow
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:54:22 PM): no, you had car problems and a migrain with teh first one.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:54:29 PM): (Biological Mother) didnt want to come alone'
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:54:48 PM): When is the first visit set up?
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:55:14 PM): not sure, (CaseWorker) hasnt called yet, will call her wednesday if i dont hear anything by then
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:56:08 PM): she said she set up a schedule and sent it to everyone in the mail, she is on leave next week. So we should both get it next week
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:56:20 PM): im sure she is busy so will give her time to respond
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:56:51 PM): ok then if there is problems with it then i will contact (CW's Supervisor)
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:57:08 PM): (Child) will need school clothes soon if you want to help out, anything is helpful if you want to help out. Diapers, socks....anything.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:57:29 PM): (CW's Supervisor) has access to the file, she will help you.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:58:25 PM): Has (CaseWorker) mentioned anything about the freedom of information act i turned into her during the trial?
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:58:37 PM): What is that
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:58:55 PM): No, she only mentioned the visit being mailed
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:59:14 PM): Freedom of Information Act, Its says i am legal able to get the case files
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:59:25 PM): or copies of it should i say
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 9:59:30 PM): So you dont want to buyherany clothes for school.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:59:43 PM): sure will need to know what size she is
Biological Father (8/6/2006 9:59:57 PM): though it might be about a week till we can get them
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:00:59 PM): sheis a 3T or 4T by the time her birthday comes. Size 6 in shoes. Diapers are for 27 pound baby. She was sick with 103. They were concerend about her kidneys. I will call you if she ever gets hospitalized or too ill.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:01:07 PM): its the begining of the month and since i get paid daily i try to save as much as i can till we have enough to cover the bills for the month
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:01:26 PM): ok do you have the cell number
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:01:46 PM): I know. We all have bills. Life is so repititous.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:01:59 PM): our house phone is broken, we have the comcast, which the box to covert the cable to phone broke
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:02:15 PM): They should fix that for you
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:02:44 PM): they are going to, they are coming out tuesday, have to call them this morning to see if they can come out sooner
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:03:12 PM): Well, your long shaggy look wasnt going along with the Leo Dicaprio look I should say. But it is another look, you have so many you should be a spy
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:03:35 PM): i almost didnt receognize you when I looked over.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:03:43 PM): well it took me 3 years to get it that long
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:04:20 PM): and im trying to get my beard in evenly which is way it looks they way it does
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:04:27 PM): The baliff also kept yelling at me to "move up and act like I was involved" and I didnt want to be...so you can imagine I was in a shy mode.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:04:28 PM): way=why
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:05:09 PM): She yells at everyone and it is so intimidating. i dont go to court often
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:05:18 PM): I cant get over the fear factors
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:05:32 PM): (Fathers Attorney) did a good job at the trail
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:05:36 PM): trial
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:05:56 PM): honestly i believe she could have done more, but thats my opinion
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:06:35 PM): She was right on, I thought the whole time she was winning
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:07:06 PM): I will chat more later, must run. Thanks for keeping in touch. Tell (Biological Mother) hi
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:07:16 PM): well there was things said that were in my opinion contradictory to what someone else said
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:07:26 PM): that she didnt act on,
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:07:29 PM): i dont know
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:07:33 PM): ok will talk to you later
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:07:39 PM): you can fininsh
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:08:00 PM): its fine, will finish when you have more time
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:08:10 PM): I can stay
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:08:30 PM): I never get to talk with you
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:08:48 PM): why was (Son's Foster Parent) there
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:08:58 PM): support
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:09:02 PM): well the doctors all said that they didnt know what has/is causing the delays
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:09:25 PM): and (Genetic Doctor) said there was no genetic issues causing the delays
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:09:35 PM): i think thats how you spell his name
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:09:37 PM): lol
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:10:19 PM): but i believe it was (Childs Pediatrician) who said, that there is a window of opportunity for her to overcome the delays
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:10:44 PM): when a child is missing milestones, and delayed they never put a diagnosis on it until age 7. SHe is in the window, meaning they will watch her to see between 2 and 7 what she does. They cant diagnose early until everything important happens or doesnt happen. For example she doesnt even speak yet. They need more data. I think it is genetic, just like her sisters.
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:10:46 PM): but like i said, in my opinion, if they do not know what has/is causing the delay then how can they say that
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:11:09 PM): They told me it was the OPD syndrome, look it up on line.It has the same things she has in females.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:11:25 PM): He agreed and was willing to put it on paper but (Childs Pediatrician) said what the difference you cant cure her.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:12:09 PM): developmental delay, ear problems, respritory problems, mild retardation...
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:12:58 PM): I foundit and he agreed when we spoke on the phone but he still wants her to be tested once in school to see what her cognitive level is and IQ. She is too young to do all that.
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:13:22 PM): She has kidney problems, soine problems, all genetic
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:13:27 PM): spine
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:13:37 PM): well the ear infections could have had some part in the delays also, they didnt put the tubes in her ears till around march of 2005
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:14:09 PM): june
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:14:36 PM): wait thats right march was the start of the dependecy trial
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:15:07 PM): Well chat more later. Have a good night. Hope you get the info on that ged. Tell (Biological Mother) goodnight
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:15:17 PM): ok night
Biological Father (8/6/2006 10:15:24 PM): give (Child) a huig and kiss for us
Foster Mother (8/6/2006 10:19:57 PM): i will