they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

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they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby RainDE » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:29 pm

I had my baby at a local hospital and cps came that same day and said they were taking my baby. I really didnt get much explanation other then they thought I was under control of the father. I previously had put a protection order on the father and took it off about a month later. he was never arrested for DV but I had called and the police refused to let me make a report telling me I was lying and they thought maybe mental because the father(Dan) told them I was crazy and hallucinated everything(nice guy huh?!!) well that was back in Dec-january. After around Febuary he managed to straighten up, I still didnt let him live with me, but it was planned that he could be some part of his kids life because he was doing so well for so many months. any time he started to push towards the boundary line I let him know about it and wouldnt let him cross it. My baby was born late august. he went to the hospital with me and was not allowed in to the delivery room even though he hadnt done anything. they made me be alone and seperated us. It wound up being an emergency c-section after more the 13 hours of labor. he was no where and they wouldnt tell me what happened to him. it turns out they had the police escort him of the premises for no reason. cps took the baby right from the hospital. I was so upset that I left the hospital the 2nd day after the c-section because I needed to know what was happening. I was on my bike by the 6th day after surgery(I was supposed to be on bedrest). I just had to find out how to get my baby back. they wouldnt really give me any reason other than I was a victim. Two days after my baby was taken the father left the country- he could not handle it and said that cps kidnapped our child and that it would be no use to try to get him back, he left it all to me. cps called my mother and she made up a bunch of lies stating that I was retarted and not capable of raising my child. I thought I had a chance to proove I wasnt retarded. I went to visits and they told me I would need a psych eval. I didnt know what was going on but thought it would prove I was fully capable to be around children I thought visits were going well, he was a newborn so pretty much all you can do is hold him. My mom told them I have fetal alcohol syndrome. I have never had any symptoms but she thinks I have it. 2 months later I finally got my trial. It was unbelievably biased. in the end they said that I needed a sych eval because they said they needed to make sure theres nothing wrong with me, so I lost my trial and am waiting for the court orders. They are ordering me to a psych eval and parenting classes as well as other stuff they are supposed to tell me next week. my attorney has been trying to get me to agree to the dependency the whole time. saying I shouldnt have gone to trial. But I truly believe there is no risk to my baby being with me. I spent thousands on preparing for my child(if you include extra rent for a two bedroom apt and vitamins as well as everything he needed for the first 6 months) I have no history of drugs/alcohol or violence, I have no criminal history. this is my first child. they say if I do everything they tell me to I'll have him back in about 9months to 1 year. the next sych eval available(theres a wait list on all of the people they accept) will be the end of december or the begining of january. The judge I had I thought was acting as though she really really wanted cps to win. she struck very key testimony from the record from a friend of mine saying that shes never seen me act mental or retarded. stating that my friend was not a mental health proffessional and she accepted testimony from two case workers that saw me all of two or three times at 15 minutes each- they said there were significant cognative problems and mental health issues. but then when cross examined one of them changed to say that I seemed to understand what she was saying, and that I was able to express myself well. they kept talking about how Im a victim of domestic violence and therefore cannot protect my child. they BOLD FACED LIED and said that I didnt know how to put pants on a baby, so therefore I wouldnt put clothes on my baby in the winter if I won the trial. ITS NOT TRUE!! I havent had any children, but Ive been taking care of myself for 11 years(since 18) I have no debts and no other issues. How could I not understand how to dress a baby??? they also said I was endangering my baby by bringing breastmilk to a visit. I not only researched how to keep breastmilk safe online and in 2 books, but I was also directed by hospital staff before AND after leaving the hospital to do so, as well as these kind people who let me borrow their pump(I didnt use their used peices I bought new sterile ones). CPS did not ask me anything about the breastmilk they just told me that I wasnt allowed to have it, and seemed angry. When I testified that I knew what I was doing with the breastmilk the commissioner threw it out saying that I just said that to sound like I was doing the right thing and that I was saying what I thought she wanted to hear, and that I didnt really know about breastmilk. they deemed me uncapable of caring for a baby without any other evidence besides what I just described. I just cant believe I was deemed uncapable. Usually I am a very independent resourceful person. They asked me at one point if I had ever been homeless because my mom told them I had and I had responded that I lived in a campground for about 5 or so months to learn survival skills, live car free, and consume less while being around wildlife. at the ending arguement they said that I "even admitted to being homeless and therefore Mrs_________ cant take care of herself let alone a helpless baby." I couldnt believe what I was hearing. Also the judge said that she saw that I was giving looks as though I couldnt understand what was happening in the court room proving her suspicions about me having cognitive difficulties. In reality I tend to give looks of confusion when people are lying about me. Anyway that is my story so far. Oh, yeah the father turned out to have a criminal record I didnt know about that involved a deadly weapon/sexual assualt and they really rubbed that in, but hes no longer living on the same continent as me.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby monkette31 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:01 pm

That is one SCREWED up story!!! What state are you in? Your mother absolutely burned you in this whole ordeal. Is she trying to get your baby with her? I think you may be able to appeal the trial if you want to fight everything. I have heard that you can appeal every aspect of the case, all hearings, etc. You should find a way to file a notice of intent to appeal and try and get a new trial....try and get your stupid judge thrown out as well.

cps caseworkers aren't psychologists either. Go google american family rights and go to that site, they have ways to help you fight this legally. You seem like you write and explain things much better than some on these boards too. I feel very sorry this has happened to you. Also, there are facebook groups as well that you can join, search cps on facebook as well. There's lots of sites with info to help you fight these a$$holes.
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby RainDE » Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:30 pm

I've had a chance to review the courts findings based on the trial. It is sick and twisted. They take bits of the truth and try really hard to twist them into something bad. They said that it was bad judgement that I rode my bike after my c-section, but didnt take into account the reasons why it was done. As if that should be a reason to take someone's child away in the first place. These people are good at what they do and are trained well. They come up with ways to twist the truth that I would never have come up with.

They still cannot come up with a reason for why they have my child. The caseworker will only reply that they want a psychological evaluation to see if there is something wrong with me. I asked her repeatedly why it is they think that I need one and asked what specifically I did that makes me look mentally ill or incompitent. She cannot come up with an answer and repeats that they will do what the evaluation recomends. These people are evil children. They taket the politician route with our children. They cant even answer simple questions. If the father was still around and was complaining about not getting his child I could come up with very specific answers as to why there is something wrong with him and what actions he had taken. I would expect that same respect from people who are dealing with human or even animal life issues. I was thinking about it, and started realising that is the same behavior that one might expect from a soldier who has killed people. You could ask them what the person did to them and they could wind up coming up with nothing other than, its my job and I was told to blow those people up. but there is no connection there between what they were being told to do and whether or not it was their choice or the connection with respects to the fact that they are killing living human beings is just not there. What is wrong with people? How is it possible they can be so heartless?

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby dabrock61attnet » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:13 pm

WOW I am sorry you are going thru this. I can't imagine someone stealing my baby from the hospital. Do as much research as possible. You are correct, if CPS wants to take your children they will twist & lie and make you look like your crazy. Is there a chance you could have the evaluation done on your own, through your Attorney? I've been told not only are the Judges on CPS side their doctors are trained to lie too. Stay strong and don't give up. I will keep you in my prayers.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby flcps2011 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:08 pm

I agree with Monkette- what they did to you is SCREWED up!! I would have been on my bike too if cps had taken my new born baby!!! I would have left the hospital immediately as well. What woman who just gave birth to her precious baby could just sit there when someone had stolen her baby?? I hope and pray you will get your baby back soon. Also, it is awesome that you are bringing breast milk for your baby- I am so upset that they would twist THAT too. I am so upset with them for this- you deserve the opportunity to bond with your baby and not miss out on this special special time with her. It sounds like your mom is very similar to my own parents- makes up her own stories and assumes things that aren't true, telling people you have things that you don't, etc. I'm SO sorry!!

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby monkette31 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:39 pm

They're a bunch of bullies, sounds like they're railroading you. Where are you? When's your next hearing? How old are you? THese OLD wicked witches like to go after the young...they're cougars that eat children...
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby RainDE » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:34 pm

UPDATE: I had gotten tested and the intelligence testing showed that I am average for a college educated adult. But they didn't dismiss the case and I am still on once a week supervised visits with my own son, even though the dependency has been proved wrong. The sych eval turned up no diagnosis but I'm still ordered to psychotherapy. They are still making me do parenting classes that are meant for people way underneath my intellegence and it's getting nowhere fast. They are saying I am not reacting to my babies needs quickly enough even though I am sitting 1-2 feet from him 100% of the time and have my whole and undivided attention on him during visits. THEY ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!! Im getting so fed up with this. They just lied in court again today. I want to find a lawyer in the state of Washington AND SUE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby Eljay » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:30 pm

When is your next court date? or end of case plan/review date?
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby Beatthescammers » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:41 pm

Be very careful what you tell the psychologist. This person will tell CPS everything you say and help them twist it into something terrible. If you tell the psychologist that the parent classes are for idiots, he/she will twist that into "client has grandiose delusional thinking which is consistent with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia".

Tell this CPS controlled puppet that you are trying very hard to do everything CPS dictates and you are really hoping that he/she will HELP YOU GET CPS'S APPROVAL so you can bring your baby to your home very soon. Tell them that you already know all of the material in the parenting classes, but you are not opposed to rehearing it and will do anything to get your baby back home. Some of these goons have to have souls.....don't they???? Ask him/her once per session to please help you to get CPS's approval.

CPS is a logrolling industry. The five million psychologists in your county are being referred many of their clients by CPS so the psychologists pay CPS back by helping twist your information, so they can keep your child in foster care and collect the federal dollars for this unwanted service.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby Daruma » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:32 am

RainDE, I'm sorry about what CPS is doing to you and your baby. It's cruel. And I can verify that Washington CPS tells lies. They portrayed my dyslexic DIL as a total moron, claiming she didn't even know how to spell her own name--which they knew to be untrue.

Please don't let them wear you down.
These are my personal opinions only. They are not legal, medical, or financial advice.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby RainDE » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:14 pm

I just have started to get pretty emotional because my son is now 7 months old. There really is NO excuse for this kind of behavior. I plan on spreading some much needed awareness through out the community. I have also gotten a petition together that states that our community does not condone children being taken if there has been no abuse or neglect and that MOST people are able to correct any possible mistakes in child rearing on their own. I dont have the exact wording to the petition here with me now, but that is the bulk of what it talks about. I held a meeting to talk about grassroots activism and no one showed up :( but 2 people have told me they are willing and able to put time into it.

Also--- do any of you know what the Department would want to be written down if they say that they want you to understand impacts of domestic violence on self and son? I've tried turning in papers I wrote on 3 different occassions and they keep writing non-compliant and wont tell me what they want. I am not good with writing term papers. Im one of those people that has a hard time with begining and end but can make the middle real long. I typed 2 pages full and it still wasn't right with them apparently.

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby RainDE » Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:20 pm

bump*

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Re: they took my baby from the hospital and cps lied!

Postby Eljay » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:18 pm

As for the petition, you have to really ask yourself what it's going to accomplish. A well-composed letter to your government officials will probably be more influential than a collection of signatures.... in my opinion.

For the DV and essay, there were a few responses on the other thread you started... viewtopic.php?f=85&t=12065&p=66829&hilit=victim+domestic#p66829

I would like to know what you wrote... hard to know what's missing when I don't know what the content is. I would *NOT* post it on the forums (being public and all) but if you want to share it with anybody on this forum who you think might be able to give you some advice, send it in a private message (click on their name and look for PM/message links).
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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