how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

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how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby ihatecps » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:36 am

each time i tell my lawyer or cps worker to put my paper i give them to file they dont do it so i need to file them my self so how do i go about doing that anybody?

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby Eljay » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:20 pm

Quit asking CPS! You're filing a report that is contrary to their goals... they aren't going to help you! If your atty won't abide by your wishes, go above his/her head. However, what exactly is he saying about why he won't file it? Personally, I thought that the statement you posted was a bit lengthy and had a lot of irrelevant information in it (not that you asked for critique). If that's his take, then he needs to help you edit it, not blow you off completely.

You're in northern California, right? You should be in an area with a large defense group. What is the atty's name?

When is your next hearing?
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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby monkette31 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:07 pm

Also find out if the children's court you are in has a official complaint form for this so called attorney, who will not file this for you. The legal system, at least out here in California is the other half of the problem, just horrible how these lawyers are in cahoots with the cps system systems.

Get the complaint and fill it out and do whatever it is to make a formal complaint.
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby good dad » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:02 am

The legal system, at least out here in California is the other half of the problem, just horrible how these lawyers are in cahoots with the cps system systems.


Monkette, I don't know if you have read this or not, but the Bar association pretty much tells lawyers to screw the parents


http://apps.americanbar.org/child/rclji ... arents.pdf
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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby StevenP » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:37 pm

Here in Santa Cruz county it is the same I just found out that the lawyer that was court appointed is really not working for us. Thanks to FIGHTCPS.COM my GF gave a letter to her attorney putting her on notice to fight for us. This morning she had to send her another one telling she has not been doing her job within five minutes she responded and basically told her that she needs our help and she knows damn well she is not fighting for us. But CPS has something to do it. She just was not able to say it in so many words. I can't believe this whole money pit system is so corrupt. This is what everyone has comply and be civil about. All I can do for now is shake my head.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby Eljay » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:46 am

My attorney said, "everyone knows that CPS lies so don't worry about what they said." So.... yes, getting your atty to fight for you will allow you to become one of the many voices that says, "CPS HAS LIED THEIR ARSES OFF AGAIN." If every parent goes in with the knowledge you have (making your atty fight for you, filing declarations, etc.) then eventually the judges are going to question everything that comes out of their mouths. Thank you for putting up a fight!
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby family_man » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:15 pm

Your statement of facts is confidential, privileged attorney-client-communications, until it is submitted to the court. He should not have divulged it to your caseworker.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, and this is not legal advice.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby good dad » Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:33 pm

Good point Family man!
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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby ihatecps » Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:52 pm

nice avator monkett

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby treytrey1 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:29 am

Our original att said CPS was allowed to lie and the Judge didnt care. :(

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby Eljay » Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:12 pm

Well, they may not care to do anything about punishing CPS, but many judges DO care about doing what is best for your family. So, instead of attacking the caseworker, just focus on getting the truth on record and asserting that home/family is best for your child(ren).
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby ihatecps » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:15 am

BARRY WHITE IVE POTED THINGS ON FACE BOOK AND TURNED IT INTO A CPS SITE KINDA I JUST WENT ON A VISIT TO SACRAMENTO ENOUGH TO TAKE MY 4YR OLD CHILD TO THE MOVIES ESCORTED BY THE CPS WORKER WHEN IT WAS TIME TO GET IN THE VAN SHE STAED GRABBING MY LEG AND WOULDNT LET GO AND THEN SHE TOOK MY BAG AND RAN OUT THE DOOR SO I COULD CHASE HER SCREAMING " WHY CANT I GO HOME TO MY MOMMMY WHICH IS SO PAIN FUL TO SEE IN HER EYES AS THEY TEAR HER APRT AND THROW HER IN THE VAN AND SHE LOOKING AT ME THROUGH THE GLASS WINDOW WITH SA DEYES AND IKNOW THEY STEAL KIDS FOR MONEY THE SOCIAL WORKER PRACTICALLY SAID THIS TO MY FACE IN SO MANY WORDS OUR LESS I DONT KNOW IF I SHOULD EXPOSE MYSELF BUT I DONT HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I TRULLY HATE CPS IM WORKING ON MY KNEW DEC OF FACTS.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby Eljay » Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:59 am

While it's still fresh in your mind, write down what she said. Include it in your declaration. You are doing a good job and obviously a loving father. Keep it up!
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby monkette31 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:46 pm

There are some pretty good facebook groups out there, I belong to a few. I'm glad you are at least getting visits, when is your next court date? is it the 6 mos. hearing or have you already had that? I'm taking the fact that you had your daughter at a movie house as good news, when they really want to stick it to us, they usually have the visits at their ever so sterile visiting offices....
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby ihatecps » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:36 pm

my next court date is in june and were going to have a team decision meeting next week i got rid of the social worker and my daugther been breaking things and the foster guardian is saying i caused it som now i have to do the phone calls at the agency :mrgreen:

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby Eljay » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:56 pm

ihatecps wrote:i got rid of the social worker


How did you dispose of the body??? (wishful thinking! LOL)
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby monkette31 » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:31 pm

Did you hear about the freaky Sacramento children's court referee they arrested yesterday? for child molestation! Do you know how many families and cases he ruled on? He had a hand in terminating parental rights! people are calling for redress whatever that is but cause you're in Sacramento and may know others involved in the system up there, who might have had their lives screwed up by this ref:

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2012/02/ ... n-charges/
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: how do i get my declaration of facts filed in court

Postby ihatecps » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:23 am

wow thats scary and thanks to this website i finnally talked to an ombudsman out of sacremento county and got the social worker removed and were supposed to have a tdm before march with the new social worker the last one was bias and comprimise my childs safety its so much i have learned by reading things on this site they ask me do i have another attorney and here do i get my information i just laugh becuase i love exposing cps especially when others say bow down do what they say its not in my nature to bow down i let my child be prostituted out for money but this was the d.o.f. i wrote to the director of the human service agency thank everybody and God Bless this website its literally saving my daugthers life 8)


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