HELP!! CPS BREMERTON HAS MY SON!!

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

To anyone who can help ,


Hi, my name is John, and I am the father of a 21 month old boy named Hayden. Hayden, my fiance, and myself are all from Port Orchard, WA. In order to best identify the kind of help I need, I need to go in depth and explain the events that have happened to my family for the past year.

My fiance and I began our relationship over 3 years ago when I was 19, and she had just turned 18. Over the following months we grew to know each other better, and eventually became best friends. I am not going to deceive anyone about my past : between the ages of 16 and 19 I was not making wise choices and was hanging out with the wrong crowd. I was not a mean kid, I was not a violent kid, I was just a stupid kid. As a result, by the time I was 19 I had racked up a small rapsheet of NONVIOLENT property crimes such as theft. None of them were violent, none of them involved drugs. To this day I regret all of those choices as I still find them haunting me 3 years after the fact.
At the end of my spree of indiscretions, I incurred a debt to society that caused me to be incarcerated for a few months. While in jail, my fiance informed me she was pregnant. I never made an attempt to get out of the oncoming responsibility. I informed my fiance that I was excited about what our future was bringing. I knew that I needed to change my approach to the law if I was to be a parent. While in jail I began pursuing college classes, as well as parenting classes. I planned for a better future, and got ready to return to society and not look back on my troubled past. The thought of being a parent is what got me through jail. I still have all the letters from my fiance with copies of her ultrasound images.
On July 23, 2004 my son Hayden was born, and on December 13, 2004, I completed work release and was once again a free man, and also, a father. For the next 4 months, things were like a dream. I was employed full time with a busy concrete company, I was living legit, enjoying life, and enjoying my family. My parenthood was allowing me to display a maturity that my parents and friends had hoped I would achieve. For me, it was truly a fresh start.
Early in 2005 childcare became a concern for us. Both my fiance and I were working full time, and different schedules. Our families were watching our son when they could, but we needed something on a 5 day a week basis. Based on our income we qualified for some state assistance for day care which enabled us to pay a reduced amount each month for care. We began taking our son to Colleen's Daycare somewhere around February of 2005. Colleen and her daughter were both longtime friends of my fiance, and we had absolute trust that our son would be cared for in a safe environment.
For the first month or so, things seemed to be working out well at Colleen's daycare. However, a concern developed in March of 2005 that left me with some doubts. On two seperate occassions, my fiance and I had gone together to pick our son up from daycare. On each occassion, we parked in the driveway of the residence/daycare, and approached the daycare from door that went straight from the driveway into the daycare. On each occassion I was able to open the unlocked door, and enter, unnoticed by any adult. On each occassion I found my son sitting in a bouncy-hair type toy, with no adults in site. On one occassion there were older kids present with my son, rough-housing on my 9 month old baby. On BOTH occassions, had I been a kidnapper, I could have easily taken someones child from that daycare, undetected. My fiance and I were naturally concerned, but Colleen was a family friend so we addressed our concern and were assured that better care would be kept.
Approximately 3-4 weeks later, my fiance and I began discovering small bruises on my sons face and buttocks. We were not sure where they were coming from, but we suspected he was either being roughed with by older kids in daycare, or was being left unattended around toys intended for older kids. These bruises began appearing around April 15th 2005. Over the next seven days we took Hayden to daycare only part time, and asked that he be kept safe from the older kids. We brought the bruises to the attention of Colleen, and all parties agreed that Hayden was an energetic little boy who needed to be watched so the bigger kids didn't use him as a play thing. Let me state this : Had Colleen not been a trusted friend, we would not have been so patient to find the solution for his bruising. On April 21st, 2005, I made a comment to my fiance that now rings as sadly ironic. We were getting ready to go shopping for toys, and Haydens bruises had developed to the latter stage where the bruise is a dark purple, just before they begin to go away. I said to my fiance, "Should we really take him out in public? People will think we've abused him!". At that time I meant it as a joke, but oh was I wrong.
The morning of April 22, 2005 was the last time our son was at home with him mom and dad like he should be. That morning we got him dressed, took him to daycare, and went to work. At about 4pm I received a call from my fiance, telling me that our son was in CPS custody, and Colleen, our friend, was the one who dialed the numbers. Colleen had claimed to authorities that she was concerned over our sons bruising, and that she suspected us of foul play! She had completely betrayed us to save her own skin. That night we went hom not knowing where our son was, if he was safe, and when we would see him again. He was taken on a Friday, and all weekend we were left in the dark. We placed numerous calls to CPS, we tried to get through any way we could to find out what on earth was going on. We didn't get through to anyone until Sunday, oddly enough. We were contacted by our first social worker, Kristi Keller. She informed us that our son had been taken on suspicion of physical abuse, and that a meeting would be held that Monday to inform all parties of what was going on.
On Monday, April 25, 2005, A meeting was held at the CPS office in Bremerton. In attendance was my fiance, my father, my fiances mother, maternal grandparents, and sister. Also in attendance was our friend Krystal. Kristi Keller and her supervisor led the meeting. It was explained to us that our son had some bruises that concerned them. They said they wanted to figure out how he got them before he would be going home. For the next hour everyone in attendance gave their version of what kind of parents my fiance and I are, what they thought happened, and why this was all just a big mistake. All parents and grandparents in the room vouched for myself and Jen (fiance) being positive, unexperienced young parents. Everyone agreed that neither one of us were of a violent nature, and Jen's family stated that while they did not approve of me at first, they did not believe I was capable of hurting a child.
When it came time for us to explain the bruising, I told Kristi Keller everything I knew about them. I told her about the occassions when I found my son alone at the daycare. I told her about the older kids who I had witnessed rough-housing my son. I told them the timeline of when the bruises appeared, which days he attended daycare, which days he stayed home. At the end of it all, Kristi Keller only took limited notes, and stated that our explanation was not sufficient to explain the injuries. We told her that we explained everything we knew. She responded by presenting us with an option for temporary family placement while the investigation continued. We signed an agreement for my son to be in the care of Jen's mother. We quickly arranged a visit plan, and we all began to think of a way to end this nightmare!
We didn't hear much for about a week after the initial meeting. We were allowed to visit our son as much as we wanted at that time, providing Jen's mother was present in the room. Visits were held at Jen's mothers home, and all awaited word from CPS. In early may we received mail from DSHS. It was a letter which contained the assignment of the guardian ad litem in our case, naming Tamera Brandon as our CASA. Right off the bat my father and I could tell this woman was out for blood. She was biased from the start, claiming I was a criminal so I must be responsible for hurting my child. She immediately began sowing doubts about me in the minds of Jen's family. Keep in mind, Jen's family hadn't always been so fond of me. Early in our relationship, her family regarded me as being no good because of my clothing, history, and race. Jen's grandmother is especially prejudice against hispanics. I am hispanic but I was adopted at the age of 10 months by a caucasion family. So, when this CASA began sowing her doubts, Jen's family began forming a slanted view of who I really was. Tamera Brandon eventually went so far as to claim that she had proof that I was the guilty party, and told Jen's mother that she knew for a fact that I was a child abuser. This caused Jen's family to flip a complete 360 degree circle. All of a sudden I was no longer welcome among her family. Jen's grandmother threatened to "disown" Jen is she did not leave me and accuse me of these crimes. Tamera Brandon had completely divided the two sides of the family, and had caused her mother to alienate her from family functions.
Our visits were cut down drastically. We were now reduced to 6 hours per week, and I was no longer welcomed to visit and Jen's parents. My visits were moved to Compassionate Care, a childcare group that is contracted by CPS to supervise case visits. Around the same time, Jen's grandmother had called our landlord and slandered me so bad I was evicted from the lease on our apartment. Jen remained there and I was forced to move into my mothers. In early summer of 2005, we received notice that the case had progressed to the dependency court stage, and that a new case worker was being assigned. Our 2nd case worker was introduced as Marianna Kritsberg, and she had the same judgemental, ignorant attitude that Keller had displayed. Her job was to get the case to the point where we would agree to a "dependency". CPS still had not questioned the daycare (They haven't to this day), and were still not satisfied with our explanation of the bruises. We tried to get CPS to see the mistake they were making, but in the end our court appointed attourneys recommended that we sign the dependency. Looking back, I wish I had never signed that damned document, as it enabled CPS to invade my life more than I ever thought was possible in America. First I was made to do a drug and alcohol evaluation. I had to take 2 days off of work to complete this evaluation to determine if I had issues with substance abuse. I passed this evaluation with flying colors. My urine came back completely free of drugs, and it was concluded that I had no issues with drugs or alcohol.
Come mid-late summer of 2005, our social worker was changed yet again. Our case had reached the dependency service stage, and we were assigned Rebecca Brewer as our new and current case worker. She assigned us services to complete, and over the next few months Jen and I took parenting class after parenting class, and completed evaluation after evaluation. Tamera Brandon had slandered me so bad, that all family visits were ended and we were limited to 2 hours per week, at the CPS office. For 2 hours on Wednesdays, we sat in a crowded room with a stranger and pretended to feel natural with our son. The change confused us. Our compassionate care visits had been going well, the visit supervisor had grown to be friendly with us, and complemented the way we engaged with our son. She took many good notes which we hoped would make it to the attention of the court.
In October of 2005, we had what was called a 6 month review hearing. It was reported that visits were going well, services were being completed, and my drug evaluation turned out clean. The noted from the Compassionate Care were never mentioned in court, nor was any effort made by my attourney to have them included. The hearing did not go how we thought. We were both found in compliance but with no progress. The court and CPS were still insisting that I must admit to something if we were going to get our son back. Tamera Brandon threatened that if one of us did not admit to it, that we would never have our son sent home.
In November of 2005, my father took on an active role in rescuing my son. My mother and father, now divorced but still close, had adopted me at the age of 10 months. My father had a clean record of adoption in California, had a good character status in Port Orchard. With only a few minor bumps in the road, my father was approved to began supervising visits. Since Christmas of 2005, my father has been hosting our visits at his home, for about 3 hours a week. Visits go great and my father is happy to have him amongst loyal family.
By court order, Jen and I were required to schedule and complete a psychological evaluation before the permanency hearing coming up April of 2006. We were referred to Dr. Michael O'leary who has a psychology practice out of Silverdale, WA. Due to his busy schedule, our evaluation was to be completed phase by phase over a 3 month period. We would have a testing phase, a parenting observation, and a final interview. All phases of the evaluation were completed with only minor scheduling delays. During my final interview, Dr. O'leary looked me in the face and told me that he did not understand why this case had gone so far. he stated that I have no domestic violence history, no violent crimes, and according to the testing, only minor anger issues that did not even come close to suggesting the ability to harm children. He said there were questionable aspects of the case, like the fact that the
"bruising specialist" who examined my son at Mary Bridge the day after he was taken was not even a doctor, but a nurse practitioner. He also wondered why the day care was never questioned about it's possible role. In fact, the daycare has since closed for unknown reasons, and Colleen has opened up an embroidering business in Port Orchard.
I left the evaluation with hope at last. My fiance and I rejoiced. We thought for sure that Dr. O'leary would voice the truth in his report that would be sent to CPS and our attourneys. We were confident that the case would finally see an end in just a couple short months. And then, on May 4th of 2006, our hope was crushed. We received copies of our evaluations from our attourneys. Everything in the first few pages were as expected. Fairly low scores on many of the tests, everything showed that we were of no major threat for violence. Our parenting evaluation went decent. The doctor had stated appropriate interaction, despite us being young, inexperienced parents. Then, we got to the last page, where the final conclusion was written out. Thats when our hearts sank. Despite all the tests, O'leary's conclusion was that our parental rights should be terminated, for the simple fact that I would not admit anything, and my fiance continued to defend me despite CPS accusations. He said he was suggesting permanent adoption as the ultimate solution to our case. We could not understand what would lead the doctor to say this. I could not believe the conclusion was so subjective to the opinion of CPS. None of the actual test scores were even mentioned in his final conclusion, not one.


As of now : Jen and I have jumped through every hoop CPS has asked. We have taken the classes, done the evaluations, attended every visit, and have at the same time continued to work full time. My side of the family has welcomed Jen with open arms, while hers continues to be fed with CPS lies, dividing us further. My father, Jen, myself, and the rest of my family are willing to do whatever it takes to get him back. Our problem is, we have been deceived by these liars for over a year now, so we have no idea where to return. We need names of lawyers who are willing to fight CPS, we need names of people who we can reach out to for guidance.

WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!! On June 12th we go to court, and that is when the state will move to terminate our parental rights, unless we can find a way to break through the blatant untruths!! Please, if anyone can help in anyway, let me know, we our desperate and ready to fight CPS to bring our son, Hayden, home.

Warriors4Haydem (Father)

[Momoffor]

John are you and Jen married?

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

No we are not married at this time. We are engaged to be married. As of right now we are trying to decide what would be wiser between getting married now or waiting until the case is over.

[Momoffor]

We need names of lawyers who are willing to fight CPS, we need names of people who we can reach out to for guidance.

You need doctors who arent tied or linked to CPS in any way.

Its easy to get proof for truth, but to get proof to prove a llie is a lie; its vitrually impossible.

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

Yes, I have considered paying out of pocket for an outside evaluation done by a doctor who is not on the CPS payroll. My only problem is that I haven't been able to uncover which ones are working with CPS and which ones aren't.

[Dazeemay]

Has any of your family talked to other parents that were at the daycare to gather evidence against Colleen?

I can tell you of some doucments to file at the court house, but you do need an attorney unless you feel capable enough to go it on your own.

Even if you do not have an attorney you can still file these documents. You have to pay for it, each county and state are different with their charges.

It would be helpful if you found evidence and witnesses in regards to this Colleen.

The forms are called a Declaration of Facts and Objections and Corrections. Here is a link to them. If you do not understand how to do these forms Mrs Edwards on this site will help you. Tell her you are from fightcps site.

www.geocities.com/whosyurmamma/start.html

Now when you do these forms if you have documentation of any kind state in the forms you have evidence of your statement.

What has happened is cps got to the your fiances relatives to divide and conquer. That is their goal.

In the forms you can also state your parental rights. I am going to give you links to them.

This is a case law link. You can refer to this case law in your O C form http://forum.fightcps.com/viewtopic.php?t=3895

Here is another law you can add to your O C form

Permanent termination of parental rights has been described as “the family law equivalent of the death penalty in a criminal case.” Therefore, parents “must be afforded every procedural and substantive protection the law allows.” In re Smith (1991), 77 Ohio App.3d 1, 16, 601 N.E. 2d 45, 54.

Here is another link to Parents rights

http://forum.fightcps.com/viewtopic.php?t=1870

This is a good link on many case laws you can quote in your O C

http://forum.fightcps.com/viewtopic.php?t=2231

[Dazeemay]

I forgot to tell you that you need to get all petitions and your case records to do the O C form.

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

Thank you for your help with guiding me to these forms, I know they will prove a great tool in my case.

Now, our main concern right now is the outcome of our psychological evaluation. All of our test scores were within normal range, and the tests themselves did not identify any significant threat for abuse in either my fiance or myself. However, the "final conlusion" of the report states that they are still recommending termination to the courts based on our adamant denial that any foul play was present. No test scores were sited in the final conclusion, the whole conclusion was subjective to the CPS case data.

So, what I am wondering is this : Is there a way for me to get this evaluation stricken like the lie that it is? I have court coming up soon and the courts decision on how to proceed in our case is resting strictly on the outcome of this evaluation. My dilema is that my public defender can't seem to spare me the time of day to talk to me about this matter. It seems I am left on my own to find a way to dis-credit the evaluation and the doctor who administered it.

Will the forms you linked me to be ample to cast doubt on the eval?

Warriors4Hayden(Father)

[Dazeemay]

All of our test scores were within normal range, and the tests themselves did not identify any significant threat for abuse in either my fiance or myself.

Were you told this by the evalulator?

However, the "final conlusion" of the report states that they are still recommending termination to the courts based on our adamant denial that any foul play was present.

Who is doing the recommending; the evalulator or cps or both?

Will the forms you linked me to be ample to cast doubt on the eval?

I hope so. Everything depends upon the judge. He is your final say in this. So far we have had a good track record of the forms helping.

I have an article you can read and somehow in the forms I sent you you may be able to include pertinent information from this in your O C form. Quote what matches your statements. Be sure you list her name and if you can find other articles by her read them so that you have a good feel as to how to enter it in your O C

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i25/25b00701.htm

[Dazeemay]

This is another very excellent case law you can present in your O C

Be sure to print these caselaws and have then in court with you.

http://www.courts.state.va.us/opinions/ ... 220052.pdf

What case laws do for you is to back you up in your parent rights not being terminated. These are most important to present.

Now their lawyer would not expect you to have these case laws and s/he would have to have another case law to counter your case law, but s/he won't have one because they won't be prepared that you are coming from that angle.

Now in regards to your lazy public defender. He is suppose to file these forms if he does not you must. Let him know you are going to anyway because it is your right.

He needs copies of the forms, their lawyer needs copies, the judge should have his, but be prepared if he doesn't, the GAL if you have one, GAL attorney if there is one.

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

[quote]Were you told this by the evalulator?

The evaluators written report of my psych evaluation documents two key points in my case. One, the written evaluation clearly reveals test scores that equate to no significant risk for child abuse. Namely, the Child Abuse Inventory. This test claims that a score of 166-215 signifies potential to commit child abuse. My score on this particular test was 100, a full 66 points BELOW even the lowest end of the range. The second thing my evaluation documents is that despite this test score and others like it in the evaluation, the doctor is still recommending termination. He claims the grounds for this recommendation is my unwillingness to admit fault for abuse, and my fiance's adamant claims that I have never, and never would, harm a child. To me, this clearly demonstrates the evaluators unwillingness to form an objective conclusion regarding my psychological profile, and is instead opting to form a subjective one in regards to accusations documented in the CPS case file.

It seems to me, if the test scores are saying I am not at risk to commit child abuse, then no one should be telling me that I need to admit to the child abuse!

But, it seems that no matter how many hoops I jump through, no matter how many ways I demonstrate my ability to parent, they still seek a confession for an atrocity I did not commit.

Warriors4Hayden(Father)

[Dazeemay]

State everything about the scores etc in the O C.

As you read the article I posted for you find a way to introduce what Carol Tarvis has to say about how this type of therapy.

When you call different ones ask if they are contracted out to cps.

My daughters O C was something like 30 pages stating everything she could find just alone on the therapists report.

The way you post here tells me that you will present well written forms.

Do you have ways of getting evidence on Colleen?

[TracyP]

I would do everything Dazee said and FOR SURE talk to other parents that had children in the daycare. you might be amazed at what you find out.

As to the marriage question, have they ever suggested to your fiancee that she could get the child back if you werent' in the home?

GOOD LUCK and my prayers are with you and your fiance.

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

When you call different ones ask if they are contracted out to cps.


Just to make sure, is it illegal for a doctor to lie to you about whether or not they are contracted with CPS?

Warrior For Hayden
FATHER

[Dazeemay]

It would be your word against his unless you had a recording or documentation that they said it. In your state though you cannot record without their consent.

You would have to ask them to give you something written stating that they don't.

[DesertSkye]

This is so so sad
And is exactly why I do not believ ein the
"go along with the caseplan" advice

This is exactly what they will do....it seems so simple follow th eplan your child comes home
We had an ex att for CPS tell my att NO WAY they will just add to it and add to it then say you aren't copperating then TPR

I would fire the public defender
I would PM good dad he is really knowledgeable about defending yourself

I would first see if you can get this particular court date extended so we can all help you prepare to walk in there
If your lawyer won't file those papers for you
then by all means you need to fire him because if you have an att you can't file them yourself
so fire him
file them
WHEN you show the courts in a written document all the facts and what your rights are
they can't ignore that
Dazeemay is my mom and she will tell you our filing those papers made al lthe difference in the world

It would definitely be worth the time to somehow pay for another eval

Also, I would demand a trial by jury
YOU ARE BEING ACCUSED OF A CRIME!!
THEREFORE IT IS YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO HAVE A TRIAL BY JURY

There are others here who have done it
If I were you I would also go back to that eval and ask him
Why in the world would he say such a thing
You may want ot mention lawsuit without threating him
In fact I would leave him a copy of all the evidence you have even if it is not physical evidence
that is what I did and in those papers I mentioned I was going to file a lawsuit against DSS, the therapist, etc etc for all the wrongdoings they comitted against my daughter, her siblings,my parents, myself and against anyone else who gave the courts false information, etc

I would do that and walk away tell him you will see him in court and that you have paid for a second individual eval
that is somehting else I mentioned right from the beginning to the psych who did my eval.
( I would get the other eval first and a written copy of it before you do any of that)

Our hearts and prayers are with you

[Dazeemay]

then by all means you need to fire him because if you have an att you can't file them yourself

Desert remember this was because the state we were in just passed a law that the attorney had to do it and you had to do it on a certain form of theirs.

One gal's attorney would not and she just walked up and handed them to the judge before anyone could stop her. And she gave it to all of those who needed it.

The judge called all of them back into his chambers and she won her children back from that action she took.

Now my husband and I filed ours as grandparents and they were not going to let us unless we were going to testify at the hearings. We were going to testify and so we could put our two cents worth in.

So your father, if he is going to testify in the hearings, can also do these forms.

[aluani]

I live in Seattle, and now after what I am going through, I know that Washington is a CPS state. We as parents have little say when it comes to the well being of our children. PLEASE do not give up! Listen to all of the advice you are getting. Fight!! And fight hard! Your child is worth it.
You and your girl are in my prayers...keep me posted.

Angela

[Warriors4Hayden(Father)]

Ok I have begun writing out my Declaration of Facts and my O C form. I just need a little advice on what to do about my lawyer situation. Does anyone here know if hiring a paid lawyer such as Gary Preble has produced results as opposed to going with public defense. I have heard from some people that when it comes to CPS cases, the public defenders do about as much good as hired attorneys. There is also a law in WA state that requires defendants in CPS cases to have all forms filed by their lawyer if they have one, so I am trying to decide the best route to go. My father says he is willing to help out with the paid attorney if I can determine whether or not it would succeed.

Warriors 4 Hayden
Father

[Dazeemay]

http://www.olywa.net/PrebleLaw/

Judging from his site and some other things I read he looks to be on a parent's side.

He took on the Dogget's case and they were involved in the Wenatchee doings. I tried to search and see how that case came out, but was denied entry to open it.

We have had two attorney's. The first attorney had worked for cps and from our initial interview with him he was very much against them, but it did not make him a good fighter for our cause. He lived in a rinky dink county where everybody knew everybody. He rocked the boat a few times and took some flack, but our case was more than he was use to.

We did not know until we were months into our case that he had just recently had a heart attack. He did not want to get involved enough to cause stress in his life.

Our second attorney's first response to us when we called him about cps (larger city) was, "These people tromp all over your constitutional rights." Now that got him hired. And he has proven to be a good lawyer.

Go to this link. I found some excellent case laws and parent immunity laws to give to him and you can incorporate them in your O C form.

Do not fail to give him these.

http://forum.fightcps.com/viewtopic.php?t=4089

[makaylajayncharlie]

hi there

iam so sorry to hear you story
but i too was told that i would have my parental rights taken away from me and iwent to court for the two year child protective order and was forced into consenting into the order i ahd a lawer that woked with docs and didnt help me in anyway all i can say is get married before the court order and get pregnant as this is what was done before they returned home and i married my husband and i have contacts if you need them any questions ask away.. iam sorry you have to go through this it so terrible...

have they got a order in place now???

just be careful what you say and talk to your lawyer first....

this is my story now i have them home now we were in reunifaction for 6 months then in jan 2006 we refered to reuinfication program and had to complete the it at there live in home and prove ourselfes which was horrible.... and we had to get phscological evaluation which the doctor did and same report what u had recieved and she said i ahd no toys for the children even though she knew i was moving! and in her last breathe said they shouldnt be returned home before at least two years

so i hope you find the help and is there any proof you got on them or that proves you innocnets i really hope they see the truth

this was the whole story...


hi there this was my story

Our boys have been in care for 13 months.
A few months prior to them being removed strange happenings were going on around the house, more or less I was being stalked by someone.
I had a couple of people make advances towards me, but I told them straight that I wasn’t interested. Weather they were involved, I can not say for certain.

The children were never harmed or in danger as my mother used to take them away while these things were going on, We lived together at the time, Myself, mum and the 2 boys.

One day we came back from shopping and my grandmother went to the freezer to get the boys something to eat, and found our 14yo dog dead in the freezer, Everyone was in shock, so we contacted the police and told them the full story of the stalker and who we might think it was.
I had letters sent from this person, who had signed it off under a different name.
We showed the letters and evidence of the stalking to the police.
This person also threatened that if I didn't be with him back I would never see my kids again.

So the police came to my house and investigated,
Finally they accused me being the perpetrator and I made up the stalking, even though my whole family and friends had seen what was going on, and backed my story.
No charges were ever laid.

The police officer in charge Sergent Greg Dwyer , drove me personally to the Ipswich health clinic, the doctor there said he found nothing wrong with me, so he referred me to the Ipswich mental health clinic.

A lady from the health clinic drove me to the Ipswich Mental Health Unit, on the request of the Sergent Greg Dwyer.
I was there just over 2 weeks and they found nothing mentally wrong, I was cleared by 15 of their doctors and released with no medication.
I called mum to come and pick me up, as she was getting the boys ready to come and get me the police and family services showed up and took the boys for observation. They already had a court order, so this was pre planned while I was in hospital.
The boys now have been in care for 13 months and family services have the 2 year order on them.
The reason for the order was (summarized):
That I failed to protect my children and correctly identify the stalker, and would not get them back till the perpetrator was caught, or I admitted to these “happenings”
That I submitted them to emotion harm.
That I failed to accept my older sons needs because of his disability
(Speech and Therapy needs child).

Before court when they were trying to get the 2 year order, my ex solicitor handed my a document to sign just as my name was being called for court.
He said if I didn't sign it I would no see my children at all for 8 months while the department fought for this order formally in court.
This also was told to me by my CSO at the time Fiona Denmar.
So of course I signed it, turned out to be I signed the consent form for the 2 year Protection order, so much for trusting my legal Aid assigned solicitor.
They will not answer any question about what happens when the order runs out. My current solicitor told me there isn’t much you can do till the order runs out, but he will be up to see them the day it runs out.
The order runs out on the 11 November 2006, far to long to wait to have my children home.

Plan and simple they are dying in there, never once I have seen them well, they are always sick, they are always dressed in rags, We had to hand over all our older sons clothes for our youngest to wear because the carer wasn't buying him clothes.
Somedays the children have no underwear on, they have had very bad stomach bugs,
And still get sent to school.

The career has made some disturbing remarks about the children, one was "I am going to bury Jayden, if he keeps crying" (Jayden is the youngest),
Turned out Jayden had a major ear infection, which she hadn't even bothered to do anything about for over a week.

So far Family services told me, that if I see a phycologist and engage in coucilling, I would have unsupervised visits, which hasn't happened yet.
Tts got beyond a joke when 17 professionals have cleared me.
I had one bad report from a lady in Mergen who turned out to be best friends with my old CSO Fiona Demar. This lady was only in the room with me for 30mins max.
Family Services use that report for everything.
They have twisted everything that was said by me, my mother and my grandmother to make me look like I have a problem, though like I said 17 doctors can't be wrong, even Dr James Wright, one of the best phycologists in the country cleared me, and they still think he is wrong.

We don't know if we are ever going to get them back, don't know what happens after the order runs out.
I am currently 22 weeks pregnant to my new husband, and we are scared stiff they are going to take this child from us.
Now based on our current situation, there shouldn’t be any grounds to take the new baby. We are in a stable relationship, have a stable house hold.








Heres what happened at the last Family Meeting
1. Nothing has changed

2. The visits are still from 10.50 to 12.20 supervised every Monday and Wednesday

3. We where told unless the doctor I am currently seeing admits that I have a problem that the children wont be handed back till further investigation and a follow up with the police is done.
4. My doctor’s recommendation is the children come back to me on supervision as their nothing wrong with me I have been cleared on no medication.
It up to the department if they choose this recommendation or not.

5. I then asked will the boys be coming home the said they don’t know and as we chatted I told them I was pregnant they said they want to try and get the boys home with us before the birth of the baby as they don’t want another baby in care.

6. I have been disgusted in the care of my children and the state that the career has them, We were told there was a “meeting” taking place to discuss this with the career.

7. A few weeks ago my son had the foot and mouth and it took her 3 days before she took him to the doctor ... this is not on and I am furious as I am the innocent party here I have never harmed my children and always took them to the doctors at any signs of them being that sick.
The team agree with the fact that this was overlooked by the career and would be addressed in their “meeting”

On our latest visit (5/9/05) I was told by my CSO that if my doctor doesn’t say that I have a mental problem there going to reopen the case right from scratch again.
So it would be and I quote “better if they do find a mental problem as you would get the boys back sooner and we could tick the tick box on your paperwork”
Stating that the best thing would be if I was mental because if their is something they can treat it and the boys will come home, I nearly fell off my chair when I heard that, that is absolutely disgusting. Turns out if I am innocent, My children will be punished by the department for longer.

Also it’s been said that my old FSO officer I had in the beginning, has been authorized back on my case for some reason.
Kim Davies is now my TEAM LEADER for a second time. This is the person who promised me I would NEVER get my kids back and that I was an unfit mother.

We have asked simple question as weather the boys will be returned home and they refuse to answer, they cannot tell us at this stage.
Its been 13 months and I want to know what the plans are as I am not happy with the career
It was suggested that my aunty be considered for the boy’s career, she'd love to take the boys.



We where wondering if this were possible and how would she go about doing it?
As her and the boys where very close, and then at least I know the boys are cared for and are healthy.
I trust her fully and wouldn’t worry about the care of the boys
The boys current career already has many complaints against her and but the department has put the children back in her care as they state they don’t deal in that area but has been handed onto the investigation division.

After 13 month in the care of the department, we have made no advancement in getting our children back, or even an unsupervised visit.
The visits remain the same as they always have 3 hours a week, this is not enough time for a child to see its parents.

I am making these formal requests to you:

1. That our visit hours are extended and have consideration for unsupervised contact.
2. That my case be reinvestigated by another department other than Ipswich, I know this is possible.
3. That you tell us formally in writing what the plans are for the children and if they are ever going to be returned to their rightful place. WITH THEIR LOVING FAMILY. As these family meeting are telling us nothing.
4. That my Aunty be consider for career, This option was never given to us EVER in the beginning. It would be for the better interests of the children to put them back into their FAMILY environment. At least with their Aunty and cousins.

Our Solicitor Clarke Bushnall, Lawrence Springborg MP (Leader of the Opposition), Don Livingstone MP (Member for Ipswich West) and Elisa Petranich Senior Investigator (Queensland Ombudsman) are waiting for your formal response to our requests before taking this matter further.


now as febuary 2006 we gave birth to a beautiful baby girl name makayla pheniox. and the boys were returned home under living at home under a order that we have everyday care of them trough a lifeline reunifaction program we had to prove that we were good parents and do parenting cla'ss and still have to engage in coucling until the order up on novmeber 22 2006 and we will see what hapens then but the main thing is we struck our time out we had to prove ourselves and put up with crap from the department of child safty. but it was worth it the end even though they were wrongly taken in the first place.... never trust them at all... they are liers an not to help or protect anyone... but just glad there home

stacey

[lostsoultacoma]

Hi,

I just read your story and it sounds just like what my husband and I are going through. My husband's side of the family has gone against us and are working together with cps to keep our kids from us. On April 20, 2006, my husband took his daughter (my step) to Good Samaritan to check out her bruises. We were not aware of them until CPS contacted him at work, harrassing and threatening him to take her to the doctor for an exam or else she would be the one to do it. So, being compliant with what she asked and since we had nothing to hide, he took her. They were there for 12 long hours. The nurses were being rude with my husband, especially as soon as CPS arrived. There was ONE doctor that examined his daughter and he reassured my husband 3-4 times that it was not abuse. He even heard the doctor arguing with someone on the phone about it that it was not abuse. But of course, they didn't listen to the doctor. A detective showed up around 9 or 10 pm that night and could not make a decision on what to do, so he had to call his supervisor. After 12 midnight, they decided to take his daughter with them, and left.

My poor husband was left there like a dead dog. He was told by the social workers that he would be contacted first thing in the morning and that he could see his daughter. They also said that she could stay with a relative that night, all they needed was a name and birthdate. My husband called me and asked me to contact his Aunt. They never bothered to get her info. The next day, they said they would call in the morning. They did not. I called and the social worker from that night told me she was not the one handling the case, it was a different social worker and she connected me to the voicemail. I kept calling and calling until finally at 2:45pm, this social worker answered her phone. She said she just returned to her desk because she was with my step daughter and had taken her to lunch-Mc Donalds!!!.

She said they were going to plan a Family Team Meeting with us soon to find placement for his daughter. I received at 3:30pm a call from Carol Mitchell who was the coordinator for these meetings. My husband was upset and was complaining to her about what happened, all she said was "uh, huh." Just not paying any attention, so he got upset and passed me the phone. I spoke with her and she said this was why she was calling, to schedule this meeting. We agreed to schedule for the next week, Monday.

At the meeting, we brought my husband's mother, stepfather and his aunt. We had brought them there for support. Immediately, his mother, being greedy as usual, was degrading us saying that every time she came to visit the kids, they were asking to go live with her and that they were so skinny. Our mouths just dropped because here she was trying to be Mother Teresa. The Thursday of that week, my stepdaughter was brought to my husband's aunt's home. A week later, our other 3 kids were taken away as well. CPS claimed because my stepdaughter was not willing to confess on who gave her the bruises, they thought that the other kids were also in danger. My daughter, who was staying with me was taken to her father-despite the fact that there was an open case involving him that my daughter made allegations he was sexually abusing her. They didn't care about that.

The two social workers and the two police officers entered my home without a warrant. My daughter was crying and one of the social workers pretty much told her to shut up and to stop crying. While trying to put my infant in the carseat they had, it had to take them 45 minutes to fix it because the belts were not properly placed in the carseat and then they could not figure out the lock because it wouldn't lock in-where were they protecting my baby in this case?

Since then, my husband's family has formed an alliance against us, even with the mother of his two older kids-who has not seen them in over 3 years. All of a sudden, she wants her kids to be with her. This woman is a drug user and her boyfriend is an illegal alien living here in Washington. A while ago, he was arrested for possession of drugs and they found out he was illegal and had indicted him back to Mexico. Not too long after that, he was brought back here again in Washington, had the audacity to claim he is the alleged stepfather of the two kids, even though he was never around them.

During our second Family Team Meeting just recently, it was a torcher chamber. His mom and ex were constantly making eye contact and gestures with each other. They said in the meeting, no badgering, but yet allowed his mom to point fingers at me and my husband. Just recently, we found out one of his cousins and her girlfriend agreed to testify against his mom in court about past allegations made by his daughter against her own grandmother. When my husband mentioned his name in the meeting, but not what he knew, his mom's eyes grew big and became nervous. She later asked my husband what this cousin had to do with the case. Since that meeting, she has been trying to get a hold of his cousin, 6 times in one day.

His ex and his mom tried to be slick after the meeting speaking in Spanish telling his ex that she is welcome to go to the house to visit the kids-even though she is not supposed to. At our last supervised visit with the kids, my husband's mother was in the room, and as soon as we entered the room, she pulled my stepdaughter away and told her not to talk to us. We have been telling the social workers about this manipulations and had requested to move them to my cousin-but refused. What a coincidence, prior to my husband's mother seeing his daughter, she never made a disclosure as to who abused her. But as soon as grandma came in the picture, now she says who "did it". These kids are afraid of their grandmother because she threatens them.

We also have a hearing on June 12th in Tacoma. We were hoping to get some families to get together to fight against cps. Maybe we can get together and plan this-your story is almost similar to ours, except they haven't slapped the termination of parental rights on us. Please email us at [email protected] if you are interested, because we are. Thanks again.