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Greegor
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Postby Greegor » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:13 pm

MommieX2:
Domestic ABUSE is not illegal.
Controlling behavior, economic control, verbal insults/verbal fights,
emotional or mental abuse, etc..
(When women do these, often not an issue!)

Domestic VIOLENCE is illegal.

ABUSE is used in divorce actions.
ABUSE OR VIOLENCE are what makes cases for CPS.

You were with this guy for many YEARS and
only NOW you are suddenly seeing all of these
many types of domestic ABUSE and domestic violence?

Please don't get angry with me for seeing something
peculiar in that.

You think he CONCEALED this behavior for all of
those years?

Why bring up the cocaine rape thing?
What IS your purpose with that?

DO you think that by making him seem
so utterly horrible will HELP you?

CPS might actually USE YOU to take him
out of the picture and then turn on you!

They have a long tradition of doing that!

The more bad you make him out to be, the
more they will be able to make you look
like a complete idiot later.

Sure, you might get LUCKY and get
some CRUSADERS to join in with you
to crucify him and put you up for sainthood,
because they do that every once in awhile.
(It's GREAT Public Relations! )

But chances are much greater it will all
be used against you.

Isn't your own attorney telling you this?
Maybe you should be asking about the
risk of this "blowback" for slamming the husband?

Even allowing that yours is a REAL case of domestic VIOLENCE,
CPS can do your family FAR MORE DAMAGE.

You may look back on your soon to be ex-husband's
"controlling behavior" with fondness after experiencing
the controlling behavior of CPS caseworkers with
a CINA case on your family.

Stop thinking that making him a villain will help you.

The agency would call it "failure to protect" and
say that you saw MANY signs of domestic abuse
over the years but continued to expose the kids
to it. They won't care that you said there were
no signsw and he suddenly went nuts like this.
CPS workers are sick, obtuse misfits.

My own 10 year old convictions (bipolar ex-wife 1994)
got one of our caseworker all excited about
imagining domestic abuse that did not exist.

This particular caseworker had gotten her
BA in criminology and her fiance' has a FELONY
record for burglary.

He beat her black and blue from head to toe.
I read the court records.
They wouldn't let me see the photos in the record.

She ran right down to the courthouse to get a
judge to lift the no-contact order.

If any of her CLIENTS did that, she would
take their kids IMMEDATELY.

THEN, she was wearing an engagement ring
and showing it off to the other idiots down
in the courthouse hallway.

My SO did one of those fake coughs where she said
"AhhchcWifebeater!huhhuh" so they could all hear it.

The caseworker got married within 6 months after
the violence.

I've always wondered if her OBSESSION with
imaginary domestic violence wasn't really
about what was actually going on in her OWN LIFE
at the time.

But I mention this amusing story to let you know
that CPS doesn't even need REAL domestic violence.
They are perfectly happy to ASSERT it even if
their only basis is their own IMAGINATION.

Did you make the mistake of thinking that
what they say to your face is the same thing
they will write when they take you to court?

Telling you lies or making false promises is seen as
ethical by them. You are a child abuser in their eyes,
even if they have to LIE or cheat to make it so.

Lots of people think they can schmooze their
way around problems with CPS workers.
Usually that lasts until you see how they
write up what you tell them.

If your husband knows this, perhaps this would
be part of him "going postal" seeing that you are
basically handing your kids over to foster care.

Not that that is good, but it might be less irrational
than you think, if he knows how CPS handles such matters.

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WOW!

Postby splizzrinkle » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:46 pm

That was DEEP! That has got to be one of the most perfect post I have ever read on here. You hit it right on the head. I suggest who ever reads your post, that they take it to heart. Man, I give you 5 stars on that one!
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Postby Charlotte » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:51 am

I really feel badly for the situation your in Mommiex2. After my experience, I would never call CPS for anything, ever. It's a nightmare that more people don't know the truth.

CPS might actually USE YOU to take him
out of the picture and then turn on you!

They have a long tradition of doing that!


This is so true. Calling CPS is like shining a flashlight into Hell.

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Postby Greegor » Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:29 am

Charlotte wrote
This is so true. Calling CPS is like shining a flashlight into Hell.

Ha! Yep.

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Postby Frustrated » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:12 pm

Greegor wrote:Charlotte wrote
This is so true. Calling CPS is like shining a flashlight into Hell.

Ha! Yep.



This is true as well, I called CPS for possible Sexual Abuse on my Children from their Bio Dad, and I got attacked instead! I got 4 Cases AFTER That! :shock:

What I should have DONE is go back to Family Court and have the Judge take away his Visitation which I have achieved that goal, he lost 2 weeks of Visitations. Only got two weeks out of the Year. My Lawyer said if it happened again he would be in hot water once again and will be formally charged this time around. In his words, let it happen again so they can formally charge him for real? They are crazy! I tried to get his Visitations abolished, but Judge said that Father STILL has Rights to Visitations! CPS can't do anything because there are no Proof! :? Instead CPS attacked my intergrity. I can't believe this. I thought it is about PROTECTING CHILDREN, not ATTACK Parents for doing something right to protect their Children? They are nuts!

Would I call them again? No. I would try another Path, which is to go to Court, and have his Parental Rights terminiated. That's a good safe way instead of CPS attacking you for no apparent reason. I mean this is unfair and I thought the Organization is called PROTECTING the Children. I guess I thought wrong and it is all about ATTACKING the Parents. They did NOT even do anything about the Bio Dad doing some sexual things on my Children. They did Nothing! Just carried on like it never happened!

I would very much RATHER use OTHER RESOURCES to go against this. I would NOT use CPS to do this because all they do is impose services on you instead of the Offending Parent that did this! I WAS the NON Offending Parent. Why are they attacking the NON Offending Parents? I sometimes wonder. :roll: why?

Instead I would call the Police, and file this in Court and leave CPS out of it. That would be a safe way to go without having CPS intrude into your Lives and make your Lives like HELL!
It is easy to steal from poor people. But don't do it. And don't take advantage of those poor people in court. The Lord is on their side. He supports them and he will take things away from any person that takes from them.~ Proverbs 22:22


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