New here with some questions

[jackiew75]

have posted some replys and a question about our attorney but have not introduced myself. We, like many of you are being railroaded by DHS in Oregon as well as the police and DA.

Our story began in January when my husband and I brough our daughter to the doctor for joint pain and vomiting. Initially, they did not want to do any testing.. We begged because we thought she was showing signs of ALL (cancer) and they agreed. After a couple of hours, they have us go back for repeat tests and then come to tell us what they found. One non-motile sperm in each urinalysis. I cant tell you much about who we believe did it because of the persons age, but I will tell you that DHS and the police thought it was this person too at first because of some behaviors. After a week goes by, and a new detective comes on to the case, they tell me it is my husband because the person we thought it was is not able to produce sperm at that age. So they send out for DNA testing, come in our home and pull two search warrents, took our computer, wedding photos, birth photos, sex toys, etc. They tell us that they found child porn.... my husband is a proffesional photographer and had taken pics of our baby in the bathtub and pics of our daughter at age 3 with fairy wings out in the forest (similar to Anne Geddes) and its all down hill from there.

According to DHS, they have closed the case.... I, according to them, fled the state the day before it went to JC.... I did leave but had no idea it was going to court that day as they had called and left a message on my machine saying "court is tomoorw at 2pm... see you there". Thank God I did leave because they went for my kids to put them in PC..... My husband stayed in Oregon and I relocated back to NH... the judge dismissed it because we were out of their jurisdiction. My husband stayed waiting for the DNA results..... They just came back this week after almost 7 months as inconclusive so they tell me. Now they are after me because they think they have my DNA on MY sex toys.... this is not a joke So I had to give it because if I didnt, they were, according to the det. in Oregon, coming to do another search warrent and I cant keep putting my kids through this.

We received a letter the same day from DHS saying that they have closed the case and that they have made a founded complaint against my husband for molestation and child porn/exploitation. They *think* my husband stands over our 6 year old and masturbates on her while she is sleeping and that is why there is sperm in her urine.... i]

Does anyone have any idea what happens from here since I left the state... My husband did come back to NH a few weeks ago after not seeing the children for 6 months. This is heartbreaking and agonizing to go through and I am so thankful to have found a site where people will actually understand. Most people I tell my story to, cannot even begin to think that its real....

Has anyone had their property seized? Did you ever get it back?[/i]

[rac]

did they have a warrant to seize your property?
Rachel

[jackiew75]

Yes, they did have a warrent both times. The first warrent, they came for computer, daughters bedding, all pictures on disk (maybe about 100 or so disks with peoples weddings, remember, my husband is a photographer) and any time of porn tapes or pictures. The second time, they came for sex toys.... So they took that AND condoms which we found very strange. So now they are all over my butt now wanting my DNA which we think will take another 7 months and we have no idea of what to do.

I have writtent to every Senator, Mayor, Congressman, Governor, DA, DHS, Law enforcement from NH to OR with no help. How is this able to continue on like this? How do these people go to bed everynight thinking that the lies they tell are ok? I feel like we are not even human or capable of any other emotion besides anger and feeling betrayed. I mean, these people came for my children because they found sex toys in our home.... because I defended my husbands innocense.... because I made "incriminating" statements about things that another person did. I was following their safety plan to the letter and they were still going to take them! They even went into my sisters home, forced her children for interviews without their parents there.... asked LEADING QUESTIONS and threatened to have their children removed if they allowed my husband to stay at their house! What gives with these people..... While they were interviewing my sisters children, the SW had the balls to ask my sister about our financial situation... as if that pertained to ANYTHING!

Sorry for rambeling on.... this hate building up inside is ruining who I used to be........ All I want is my family put back together.... my marriage not on the verge of failing and for us all to be happy again.....

[lynn5067]

it is very hard to disprove a sexual charge whether they have proof or not they will keep coming at you and your husband and try to break up your family
my 13 year old daughter accused her stepfather of touching her bare butt and they want him to do a sexual predator counseling course as well as take a psyco-sexual evaluation our lawyer told the court we would agree to a pshcological evaluation so not to label my husband a sexual offender with out any proof they agreed but nothing has been set up yet
my daghter has her own couselor who thinks my husband is guilty and will not even meet with us but she is the one who is suppose to do the family counseling we are ordered it has been 3 months since they removed my daughter from me and nothing has been done we are at a stand still because her counselor thinks she holds all the cards
my daughter has lied she is at the age that everything is about her and what she wants and she should not have to follow rules
she started getting into trouble at school trying to buy drugs, stealing and breaking school rules so as soon as we started to crack down her grounding and such she makes these claims against my husband anyone can see thats what this is all about but they dont care now they have her and we have to do what ever they want to get her back
my advice to you is be very careful and if you feel they are snooping around run before they take your children because once they do it will be at least a year or longer if at all before you get your children back
be careful of what you say they will twist it to sound the way they want it to be not the way you meant it

[jackiew75]

Thanks for the advice Lynn.... I understand that everything we have done and said is already being used against us. I just don't understand how they can sit here and watch a family in crisis and treat us the way they do. After reading all the posts on this site, it is apparent to me that this is part of their tactics.

We did have our daughter put into counseling and she has just finished up. We made sure and put her with a therapist that works for the state we live because we KNOW that my husband did nothing wrong and we were hoping that our daughter made some of the same statements she made to me once this all started about someone laying on top of her. Unfortunatley, she didnt but she did talk about who made her feel safe and who didnt.

I just wish I had found this site a long time ago so I knew better than to try and help "them" screw me!

[Frustrated]

This is the most ridiculous case I have ever heard where they seized your "sex toys" and "whatnots"...

Question:

Is the Allegations in regards to "Sexual Abuse"?
Was that the original Allegations they stated at your door at the first sight?

If not, they have no case! They often change allegations from time to time~!

Keep documents to keep their toes up, they won't be able to keep track of things.

I would suggest get your own Doctors to confirm there are no wrong doings. Get Witnesses that states there are NO wrong doings in your house.

It sounds like "they are going after Sexual Predators" and "Child Pornographers". Bush Administration just approved Law to go after them, so sounds like you are the target of their investigation. They are gathering up Child Pornographers so they assume that you are one of them.

Looks like you have a Civil Lawsuit ahead of you because there are no wrong doings. Just a normal Couple with healthy sexual Life. It is really ridiculous and absurd to make a case out of this. If there are nothing on the Daughter or Child, then they have no case. I would sue them for wrong doings! A real good Predjudice Case.

Get a Lawyer immediately and ask him what your Rights are when it comes to seizing your property and if there are any violations. Get documents from them. Request entire Case Files from CPS. You can do this by requesting from Director of Social Services, NOT CPS. How to do the form sheet to request Case Files can be found on Research Board on TOP.

[jackiew75]

I will do my best to answer these questions... Sometimes I may sound a bit abrupt or a little too forthcoming but as far as I am concerned, everyone in the state of Oregon knows our sex lives/personal lives so I really don't care at this point.

In January, my husband and I both agreed that it was time for our daughter to be seen by a doctor because of joint pain (she was 5 at the time and 4 ft tall...ouch!) and for nighttime vomiting. The doctor found nothing abnormal and didnt want labs done BUT I told him that my husband and I NEEDED them done. First urinalysis they find ONE NON-MOTILE SPERM in the sample.... Second urinalysis, again, ONE NON-MOTILE SPERM. The doctor did a pelvic exam (less the speculum) and found nothing. Same night we were escorted over to the hospital by the police so that a Sex Abuse Nurse could exam and question her.... she found nothing. The test results showed no signs of trauma to the vaginal area and no other sperm were found. They sent our children home with us that night with strict orders for them to sleep in our room, behind locked doors to prevent any unsupervised contact with another individual in our home. So initially, they think it is this other person and a week later and a new green horn detective and then they turn to my husband. First they suspect that my husband is masturbating on her while she sleeps at night and now they think that he is using sex toys on her after he masturbates on her/the toys. Maybe I am naive but I have NEVER heard of something like this and I read the news EVERYDAY! When I asked if there would be signs of trauma to the vaginal area if he were using toys on her, the detective replied, and this is no lie, "I was just on a case where an 11 year old girl was being raped by her father and you would never be able to tell by looking at her vagina.... Her hymen grew back..." Control the laughter.... Do hymens really grow back?

The A@#hole detective called last Monday to tell me that the DNA results were in.... Inconclusive on the sperm in the urine, nothing found with the SAN nurse at the hospital and that they found, get this, 3 DNA profiles on MY SEX TOYS..... One was my husband, and the other two were unknown and he was thinking that one was me (duh!). So then he insinuates that my husband and I invite people into our bedroom. I blow him off and tell him I will give him my sample.... The detective had already contacted the local police department and told them their side of the story. So I got thinking that night, I am not going to give that dumb ass my DNA.... unless he can tell me how it is relavent to this case. I tell the local PD that I wont be in like I said I would because everyone is lying to me and he tells the detective out in Oregon. I recieve a call from the idiot telling me that I need to go and give it and that he already has the paper work in the works for a third search warrent. When I question why, he tells me "Dont you find it odd that your daughters DNA is on your sex toys?" First of all, that is not what he said to me the day before and secondly, that still does not clarify why they need mine. When I began to ask him why he is messing with my life like this, he says "I've got to go, theres been a stabbing", I said excuse me and he repeats what he said the first time and hung up on me. At this point I am scared to death that my children are going to witness the SWAT team at my door in full body armour at 10 O'Clock at night (AGAIN!) so I give in and give my DNA sample. What the hell else am I supposed to do?

My daughter was also questioned by the infamous Kids Center in Oregon and she only talked of her love for her father. They turned that into "She loves him so much she's protecting him". She also went to a therapist HERE in NH that I picked and she disclosed nothing. Even that therapist was a bit appalled at this situation but again, our daughter said nothing. My husband had been posting his beautiful pictures online until now. This site was up for a year when they "found" it. Actually, they were told by my oldest sons father who contacted the police over. Yet, for one year and 15,000 "hits" to his pictures, not one person said ANYTHING about child porn. I would share the site but maybe its not appropriate now.

We anticipate suing the living daylights out of all of them.... As for the attorney, she notified my husband that she will be retiring as of now! And she is going to try to keep the non-refundable retainer we gave her. Apparently, this is legal. She was the BIGGEST waste of money. At one point, she went on vacation for 6 weeks and never told us. We had NO way to get in touch with her as she was out of the country. Now she has offered up her brothers' services, whose in the same practice, but he wants an additional 5K.... Thats an 8K retainer.... For nothing. Basically, the both of them have said that they dont have a case but expect to live like this for another 15 years... until our daughter is 21..... Somebody please advise something. I am learning to hate this world and my life is consumed with letter writing, research, phone calls, etc. Life shouldnt be this way as you all know!

[pamom2crew]

I was just on a case where an 11 year old girl was being raped by her father and you would never be able to tell by looking at her vagina.... Her hymen grew back..." Control the laughter.... Do hymens really grow back?


Yes, this is possible. But only if the child was young when it happened, and if it hasn't happened since.
Because my 6 year olds is repairing itself, but it's still not fully repaired yet.