What Can My Son Do?
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What Can My Son Do?
Good afternoon, my name is Linda and I'm here in desperation for my son and his wife. They are being railroaded by CPS (DCS) in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee. My son is 21 and his wife is 20 and they had a son on May 24, 2007. They had him for 3 months before this department took my grandson away. My son thought he would be helping if he gave their son a bath while mom went off for a little while. Being inexperienced bathing a newborn he accidentally dropped his son and the baby's head hit the side of the sink. (I know, you don't bathe a baby in a sink) The baby cried but then stopped and he thought everything was fine. Later on a "knot" formed on the baby's head and they took him to the hospital. The first hospital said the baby was fine and sent them home. But the bump grew larger and they went on to a childrens hospital in Nashville. They asked what had happened and not understanding that he was a suspect (my son) he told them. However they didn't believe him and decided to call in CPS which immediately took their son away. This office claims the injury to my grandson is that of being dropped out of a 3 story window, then it was changed to being in a car accident going at the speed of 75mph with a head on collision! If this were true this this child would have been on life support or brain dead. The child was fine with a "hickey" on his head and didn't require overnight observation. My grandson was then put into foster care a day or 2 later and now they want to terminate my sons parental rights! He has done everything this office wanted him to...including jumping through hoops. He has complied but now have cut their visitation down to 1 day a week instead of the 2 they were getting. So far this has been going on for 7 months and my grandson will not be with his parents for his 1st birthday. My son goes to court tomorrow for child support which they want him to pay out a whopping $600 + dollars a month to either the foster mom or the CPS office...not sure how that works. His court appointed lawyer isn't doing anything and now isn't answering when he calls. They ripped the 2 caseworkers the kids were comfortable with away and have now sent in 5 more. Apparently CPS doesn't like the positive feedback from the caseworkers so they sent in more hoping to find something negative. This office and the courts HAVE NOT CHARGED MY SON WITH A CRIME BUT HAVE NO PROBLEM CALLING HIM A SEVERE CHILD ABUSER! The foster mom has expressed her feelings that she would like to adopt MY GRANDSON! Is this woman crazy? My son cannot afford the kind of money needed to retain a good lawyer but is looking for one that would be willing to help him through some kind of payment plan. I can't help since I am on a fixed income. I feel so helpless and this is causing my son and his wife a great deal of stress. In fact my son's nerves are frayed and he hasn't been feeling well with all this stress. One day it's good news he receives and then the next day all hell has broken loose. Is there somewhere or someone I can contact in order to have this dept. investigated or file a complaint against them? There has got to be something we can do! We need some serious advice/help. Please...
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Frustrated
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If the Lawyer is not doing anything to get the child renuified with his parents, then its time to axe him and get another Lawyer that would be willing to do pro bono cases. It means the Lawyer will do it free or some kind of a payment plan will work. Credit Cards can pay Lawyers, it depends what credit limit he is able to rake in. Does he have a Permanent Job? That will help tremendously.
Second, if I were him, I would go to the Hospital, Doctors, etc...to gather all the Xrays and Doctor's records, Medical Records and prove that he did not do it. Possibly find some one that can testify that it can be an accidental injury. You need second opinion Doctor to look at the Xrays, such as a Brain Injury Professional Doctor that is qualified and experienced. Check out Medical Boards for Brain Injuries with Accidental Injuries. Do you have Pictures of the bump? Anything? Xrays and photos? He may have to go and ask the Hospital by signing Medical Release to give all to him to use for his Defense.
To avoid adoption with the Foster Care Mom, he could file temporary guardianship with you, and sign the rights over to you temprorarily until this all be resolved. They will have a tough time gettng through you in Courts. You would have to be willing to be at any time to take care of your grandson and you can apply for your income for this child. Guardianships are located somewhere under Temporary Guardianships. You need this all to be notarized by the Witnesses and the Courts and stamped. And keep this if they are seeking termination of his parental Rights, you bring that to Court and attach to the Affavidits for the Judge to see.
Second, if I were him, I would go to the Hospital, Doctors, etc...to gather all the Xrays and Doctor's records, Medical Records and prove that he did not do it. Possibly find some one that can testify that it can be an accidental injury. You need second opinion Doctor to look at the Xrays, such as a Brain Injury Professional Doctor that is qualified and experienced. Check out Medical Boards for Brain Injuries with Accidental Injuries. Do you have Pictures of the bump? Anything? Xrays and photos? He may have to go and ask the Hospital by signing Medical Release to give all to him to use for his Defense.
To avoid adoption with the Foster Care Mom, he could file temporary guardianship with you, and sign the rights over to you temprorarily until this all be resolved. They will have a tough time gettng through you in Courts. You would have to be willing to be at any time to take care of your grandson and you can apply for your income for this child. Guardianships are located somewhere under Temporary Guardianships. You need this all to be notarized by the Witnesses and the Courts and stamped. And keep this if they are seeking termination of his parental Rights, you bring that to Court and attach to the Affavidits for the Judge to see.
It is easy to steal from poor people. But don't do it. And don't take advantage of those poor people in court. The Lord is on their side. He supports them and he will take things away from any person that takes from them.~ Proverbs 22:22
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However, we have been told in order to get another attorney, it could set this case back another 6 months for the new attorney to play catch up. My son has done his best in looking for a pro bono attorney but there isn't any available at this time. He would need 2K to retain one that takes on these kinds of cases. He and I both talked to this lawyer and he won't do it unless the 2K is up front. So much for having him. Their son has already been away from them for almost 9 months.
My son has been trying his best to also get his attorney to subpoena other professionals that do agree this was an accident but CPS refuses to hear their take on things. They brought in their Specialist that has only had 2 years experience in the field of child abuse, and she is the one that said his injury is the result of a 75mph car crash. Anything or anyone that agrees this was an accident is immediately dismissed. And I'm serious as a heart attack.
My grandson is a fine, happy little boy that is growing up smart and strong. He has been to many physicals and his head has healed. No signs of permanent damage. He is doing everything he is supposed to be doing for a child his age. NORMAL!
I live 3 1/2 hours away so I'm no longer a candidate to take in my grandson. Besides that's another issue. Because my fiance' and I had an arguement many years ago, which by the way didn't cause either of us to be arrested, etc. CPS won't allow us to take him...and the fact that we live so far away. Otherwise that precious little boy would be here with us. We thought we stood a chance of getting him and my fiance' decided we needed to go shopping and see what we would need for him. Talk about a disappointment for the both of us.
And yes, my son has a permanent, full time job with benefits. He's keeping a roof over their heads and is paying notes on a vehicle. He has medical insurance for his family and so on and so on. Like I said, he is doing everthing CPS has asked of him and it seems the more he complies the more they hate him and look to other ways of destroying their lives. At this very moment they are expecting their second child, a little girl due in the next few days. His wife became pregnant before all this mess happened. And the kids are so afraid CPS will swoop in and take her, too.
The one thing I want to know is, is there somewhere you can make a complaint to about this office and their tactics?
My son has been trying his best to also get his attorney to subpoena other professionals that do agree this was an accident but CPS refuses to hear their take on things. They brought in their Specialist that has only had 2 years experience in the field of child abuse, and she is the one that said his injury is the result of a 75mph car crash. Anything or anyone that agrees this was an accident is immediately dismissed. And I'm serious as a heart attack.
My grandson is a fine, happy little boy that is growing up smart and strong. He has been to many physicals and his head has healed. No signs of permanent damage. He is doing everything he is supposed to be doing for a child his age. NORMAL!
I live 3 1/2 hours away so I'm no longer a candidate to take in my grandson. Besides that's another issue. Because my fiance' and I had an arguement many years ago, which by the way didn't cause either of us to be arrested, etc. CPS won't allow us to take him...and the fact that we live so far away. Otherwise that precious little boy would be here with us. We thought we stood a chance of getting him and my fiance' decided we needed to go shopping and see what we would need for him. Talk about a disappointment for the both of us.
And yes, my son has a permanent, full time job with benefits. He's keeping a roof over their heads and is paying notes on a vehicle. He has medical insurance for his family and so on and so on. Like I said, he is doing everthing CPS has asked of him and it seems the more he complies the more they hate him and look to other ways of destroying their lives. At this very moment they are expecting their second child, a little girl due in the next few days. His wife became pregnant before all this mess happened. And the kids are so afraid CPS will swoop in and take her, too.
The one thing I want to know is, is there somewhere you can make a complaint to about this office and their tactics?
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The more he complies, the more CPS hates him.
That's their tactic. It's called jumping thru hoops. They want to hold your grandson for AS LONG AS THEY CAN!!! It brings money for them, plus for fees for Foster Care, and a check for their deep pockets. They don't care "what happened" and would not hear of it. That's their way of Life. They DO NOT CARE!!!
You can file a complaint within CPS Office by going to CPS Director. This has been known to have failed. Many people have tried this path. Again, CPS don't care and still have the trump card. No matter way you look at it.
Another Second Way is to file Complaint with the Human Services/Social Services of that State you are living in or your son lives in. Rarely that will be successful but you could try.
Best third Way is to go before the Governor's State, Congressmen and to the Senate. If you complained to the State itself, they will listen. By writing a detailed letter. If you read the Letter at the bottom on the Main Page of FightCPS.com, one of the Senator/Governor wrote a letter finding that CPS can be corrupt and careless. You can use that example letter and attach to your detailed letter. Leave your Emotions out of the Letter and keep facts to the Letter. Proving with affavidits and documents that shows its an accident.
Do you have XRAYS? and Family Doctor/Doctors that say it is an accident? If you have a copy of Xrays, keep them. They are EVIDENCE! Take them to a High Rate Brain Injury Specialist and ask him what he thinks of this Injury.
It does not matter if you live far way, you can be CONSIDERED AS RELATIVE PLACEMENT. By AFSA Law, they are supposed to consider Relative Placement with a Grandparent. By that Law required, CPS has violated that Law. Write a Letter to CPS Worker that you know of AFSA LAW requirement for them to place the child with a KNOWN Relatve which is you...They ignored that Law.
It would be helpful if you read CPS Manual in your State. Check the Boards below and you would find several CPS Manuals somewhere. You can hold the clauses in the Manual against CPS. Any violations. Use those against them.
That's their tactic. It's called jumping thru hoops. They want to hold your grandson for AS LONG AS THEY CAN!!! It brings money for them, plus for fees for Foster Care, and a check for their deep pockets. They don't care "what happened" and would not hear of it. That's their way of Life. They DO NOT CARE!!!
You can file a complaint within CPS Office by going to CPS Director. This has been known to have failed. Many people have tried this path. Again, CPS don't care and still have the trump card. No matter way you look at it.
Another Second Way is to file Complaint with the Human Services/Social Services of that State you are living in or your son lives in. Rarely that will be successful but you could try.
Best third Way is to go before the Governor's State, Congressmen and to the Senate. If you complained to the State itself, they will listen. By writing a detailed letter. If you read the Letter at the bottom on the Main Page of FightCPS.com, one of the Senator/Governor wrote a letter finding that CPS can be corrupt and careless. You can use that example letter and attach to your detailed letter. Leave your Emotions out of the Letter and keep facts to the Letter. Proving with affavidits and documents that shows its an accident.
Do you have XRAYS? and Family Doctor/Doctors that say it is an accident? If you have a copy of Xrays, keep them. They are EVIDENCE! Take them to a High Rate Brain Injury Specialist and ask him what he thinks of this Injury.
It does not matter if you live far way, you can be CONSIDERED AS RELATIVE PLACEMENT. By AFSA Law, they are supposed to consider Relative Placement with a Grandparent. By that Law required, CPS has violated that Law. Write a Letter to CPS Worker that you know of AFSA LAW requirement for them to place the child with a KNOWN Relatve which is you...They ignored that Law.
It would be helpful if you read CPS Manual in your State. Check the Boards below and you would find several CPS Manuals somewhere. You can hold the clauses in the Manual against CPS. Any violations. Use those against them.
It is easy to steal from poor people. But don't do it. And don't take advantage of those poor people in court. The Lord is on their side. He supports them and he will take things away from any person that takes from them.~ Proverbs 22:22
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Momof31995
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Does your state have an ombudsman? If so find the number and call to have the case investigated. We did this and within 6 months our children were returned to us. CPS strung us along for almost 2 years til I finally got fed up and called the ombudsman to have the case investigated. We complied until we couldn't take anymore then we got tough. The more you let them know that you know your rights the less they want to fight you!
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny, when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH! I've looked up the ombudsman of our state and there are 2 of them. I've written down all information including their e-mail addresses. I'm waiting for my son to call back so that he and his wife will have this information to hopefully get their son back. He will be turning 1 on the 24th. and I sure hope they will be able to have visitation with him for his birthday. They didn't bring him to see him mom on Mother's Day...which angered me to no end. I'm so thrilled this site is available. Please pray for us! Again, THANK YOU for the information you have given me.
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Yes, for 3 years I've been jumping thru these"hoops" that Linda talks about...( that's why my e-mail address is "[email protected]")....Children are a commodity for every state. And CPS has to meet quota's to be eligible for the funds they get for each foster child in care... they look for ANY reason to take kids. Do not trust CPS...they will sweet talk you, they will talk about reunification and seem sincere..."all you have to do is eliminate the concerns" they tell you....years and years they will drag you thru the mud with evaluations...... and drug/alcohol testing, and who knows what else they'll think of...Why...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lots of it, especially if they adopt a kid out to a family. CPS goes broke by giving kids back!...NEVER FORGET THAT! Be cunning, but don't let them know YOU know. Always address issues to their supervisors, and higher if you need. Good Luck.CPS are tricksters!
Yes, for 3 years I've been jumping thru these"hoops" that Linda talks about...( that's why my e-mail address is "[email protected]")....Children are a commodity for every state. And CPS has to meet quota's to be eligible for the funds they get for each foster child in care... they look for ANY reason to take kids. Do not trust CPS...they will sweet talk you, they will talk about reunification and seem sincere..."all you have to do is eliminate the concerns" they tell you....years and years they will drag you thru the mud with evaluations...... and drug/alcohol testing, and who knows what else they'll think of...Why...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lots of it, especially if they adopt a kid out to a family. CPS goes broke by giving kids back!...NEVER FORGET THAT! Be cunning, but don't let them know YOU know. Always address issues to their supervisors, and higher if you need. Good Luck.CPS are tricksters!
Yes, for 3 years I've been jumping thru these"hoops" that Linda talks about...( that's why my e-mail address is "[email protected]")....Children are a commodity for every state. And CPS has to meet quota's to be eligible for the funds they get for each foster child in care... they look for ANY reason to take kids. Do not trust CPS...they will sweet talk you, they will talk about reunification and seem sincere..."all you have to do is eliminate the concerns" they tell you....years and years they will drag you thru the mud with evaluations...... and drug/alcohol testing, and who knows what else they'll think of...Why...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lots of it, especially if they adopt a kid out to a family. CPS goes broke by giving kids back!...NEVER FORGET THAT! Be cunning, but don't let them know YOU know. Always address issues to their supervisors, and higher if you need. Good Luck.CPS are tricksters!
Yes, for 3 years I've been jumping thru these"hoops" that Linda talks about...( that's why my e-mail address is "[email protected]")....Children are a commodity for every state. And CPS has to meet quota's to be eligible for the funds they get for each foster child in care... they look for ANY reason to take kids. Do not trust CPS...they will sweet talk you, they will talk about reunification and seem sincere..."all you have to do is eliminate the concerns" they tell you....years and years they will drag you thru the mud with evaluations...... and drug/alcohol testing, and who knows what else they'll think of...Why...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ lots of it, especially if they adopt a kid out to a family. CPS goes broke by giving kids back!...NEVER FORGET THAT! Be cunning, but don't let them know YOU know. Always address issues to their supervisors, and higher if you need. Good Luck.Return to “Newcomers - Welcome to the site - please sign in here”
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