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One forum I wish I would have never needed to find........

Postby Catholicmommy » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:50 am

At the end of April 2009 I caught my stepson (age 10) inappropriately touching my daughter (age 8 when it occurred). I called her doctor and CPS to inform them of the situation. We were able to get help for my daughter but had a very hard time getting anyone to care about my stepson since he lived out of state. We did not allow our stepson to come back.

Fast forward to August 10th 2009. My husband went to bed around 9 or 10 pm. The kids and I stayed up to finish a movie. I sent my daughter upstairs to put on her pj's around 10:30 (I think). After about 15 to 20 minutes she comes back down stairs and is bleeding from the vagina. At first she says she doesn't know what happened. I went and got my husband and we finally got her to talk. She says she pretended to be a dog and let our male dog hump on her (he was always "humping" people) while she was undressed. We took her to the ER, told them the only story we knew (the story she gave us). They found a small rip in her hymen (they said something the size of a marker was inserted). CPS took all three of our children that day and put them with my parents.

At first they claimed that my daughter had told them, that I told her "not to tell, what really happened to her" Completely untrue, I would have never tried to cover up abuse. They think my husband molested her, even though she has never said he did. Unfortunately we still aren't sure of exactly what happened to her, she is still sticking with her story the dog did it. The only things I can think of that could have happened are: she did it to herself and is to afraid to tell, the dog really did have something to do with it (maybe he pawed at her or something and it cut her, I dunno), or someone did it early that day and she didn't notice she was bleeding until she went upstairs to change.

My husband has given DNA samples and taken a lie detector test.

Finally, Sept 11th 2009 I was allowed to move in with my parents so I could be with the children.

CPS says now they are waiting for the DNA. We have never went to court over this, everything we are doing is out of complying with CPS. We have hired a lawyer and he has told us to wait it out. We can't afford another lawyer and feel we are at their mercy.

Yesterday the children finally started seeing a therapist. I don't know what to do but pray the truth comes out.

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Postby Marina » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:36 pm

I am so sorry for what you have been through.

Search the internet for: psychosexual evaluation

to become more informed on what to expect.

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Postby Mema » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:18 am

WOAH woah woah, you have never been to court? How did CPS get to keep your children then? If CpS placed your children they have to have permanency hearings in court within 6 months. Has that happened? It sounds like your lawyer is working the wrong side of this. Please learn your laws so that you can know what your lawyer should be doing. Good Dad on here has an excellent signature... No lawyer is better than a bad one. Learn all you can something is so not right.
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Postby Catholicmommy » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:20 am

Mema wrote:WOAH woah woah, you have never been to court? How did CPS get to keep your children then? If CpS placed your children they have to have permanency hearings in court within 6 months. Has that happened? It sounds like your lawyer is working the wrong side of this. Please learn your laws so that you can know what your lawyer should be doing. Good Dad on here has an excellent signature... No lawyer is better than a bad one. Learn all you can something is so not right.


CPS kept our children because we let them. Our lawyer told us it is better to comply with CPS. He said that if we don't, we will look non-compliant and like I don't care about the safety of my kids. I am so scared to not comply, I am scared they will make it worse on us. Right now, I am living with the kids. I am terrified that if I go against what they are telling us than they will stick my kids in foster care.

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Postby LanceBabe » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:35 pm

You need a new lawyer.

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Postby Catholicmommy » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:18 pm

LanceBabe wrote:You need a new lawyer.


I can't afford another one at this point. How can I get a court appointed one and are they any good?

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Postby LanceBabe » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:48 pm

I don't know anything about court-appointed lawyers. I do know, however, that you need a lawyer who is going to do more for you than just tell you to do whatever CPS says.

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Postby Mema » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:57 am

Fear is their power, Fear is evil. Although they get away with what they do it is because parents give up their rights out of fear. Good Parents will do ANYTHING to protect their children. They know this and as a result concentrate on the good avoiding the true abusive parents. Why so many children die in foster care or CPS investigated homes. You need to force their hand right now. They simply do not have any evidence to be doing what it is they are doing but they can and will fabricate it. Instead of paying a non existent lawyer, Take your child to specialists to prove their allegations wrong. Find a sex abuse expert, have what they call a validation done. Find a therapist that has excellent credentials, go to a psychologist and have an evaluation done on your terms(not theirs), take a class in sexual abuse. Do not tell them you are doing these things. Once you have enough evidence contradicting them, Together with your husband go to family court and file a motion to terminate placement. You can use a lawyer for the motion or go it on your own. There are two defenses that protect you fighting them. One is the Constitution and the other is to have them on the defensive. They are traumatizing all of you and as long as you agree to be traumatized they will continue. While all the evidence is being compiled, read the law in your state and research everything you can get your hands on. Know your Constitutional Rights by heart and don't let them be squashed. Once you give up your rights you lose them. It takes courage to fight back but you are not protecting your children by allowing them to be used and manipulated for evils purpose. We are all here for support and this site has a lot of info on it. and remember Good Dads advice... no lawyer is better than a bad lawyer...Good Luck and God bless. Law and the power of prayer are on your side.
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Postby Marina » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:52 pm

Mema stated:

WOAH woah woah, you have never been to court? How did CPS get to keep your children then? If CpS placed your children they have to have permanency hearings in court within 6 months. Has that happened?


If the children are in relative care, but not in "foster care," then there may not have to be any "foster care" court deadlines, which is good. On the other hand, there may not have to be any Prevention or Reunification "services" either. That is why you have to get your own counseling, etc.

If you have not gone to court, then both parents still have "legal custody" because of their status as biological parents. A court can give "legal custody" to your parents. However, I don't know of any reason to force a court hearing at this point.

Child Welfare can claim the father abandoned the children and use this as justification to terminate Parental Rights. This is another old trick. Do you have a copy of your Safety Plan?

A Safety Plan puts you in limbo. It is used as justification for "Prevention Services," but under a Safety Plan, they do not have to give you counseling services, etc. They may wait a year and not give your husband any evaluations or treatment, because they don't have to.

Do a websearch for

"safety plan" child sexual abuse court

Search again and include the name of your state.


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