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WhiteHaven
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Why let them take your kids?

Postby WhiteHaven » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:47 pm

Just curious here

Why would anyone allow CPS to kidnap your kids? I have vowed to my wife I will die before they take my children from me. If I even sense that it's a possibility we make a plan before hand. We have never taken them to court and never will...for some reason the courts think they can order us what to do. The way I think they are my kids I created them and have raised them no tyrant in a robe is going to tell me what to do.I have had multiple CPS agents and cops at once on my porch...I won't say something stupid here but I had already planned what was going to happen if they tried something...maybe that is why they haven't I don't know...I also don't take kindly to the tyrant in a robe threatening me with stiffer penalties if we have to come back to court again...not a smart thing to do. I have learned to keep my mouth shut when around these scum bag roaches of the earth...but my mind is always churning..I told the wife we should just sell our possessions and our vehicle and buy a RV and live on the road and homeschool the kids...so far no luck. Unfortunately it seems in our case whenever we get around "family" CPS always seems to show up...they hate me and my views on everything so they try and cause harm to my family...I know for a fact my ex sister called CPS on us back in 2010 when it was closed but that put us on their radar...2 years and still no revenge....it just festers...best I can do is not have contact with the pos but that does no good...my mother still pushes her on us...still tells my daughter who she is etc...is it that hard for people to understand when I haven't had anything to do with you or talk to you in over 5 years obviously we ain't friends! I seriously have to move out of state to get some kind of peace it seems like...sucks but it's the truth..

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby Daruma » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:59 pm

But if you die, your kids end up in foster care anyway. Only, with you dead, there's no one watching to make sure they're not abused in foster care. There's no one fighting to bring them back to their own family. In a TPR scenario, there's no one for the kids to come home to when they age out of the system.

I share your frustration with the system. I truly believe my son's caseworker belongs in prison. It's just that I don't foresee any good from a physical showdown. Read this story, http://www.komw.net/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=20&num=1811, about a dad who took a machete to a caseworker and got shot by her police escort. He died to keep his kids, but the kids got taken anyway. Not only that, but the case generated all kinds of sympathy and admiration for the "brave" caseworker who "rescued" the kids from their dad, along with calls to make it legal for (untrained) caseworkers to carry guns with them (eeek!).

When I first read this story, my thought was, "Oh, great. The kids went from living in substandard conditions, to watching their dad being shot dead right in front of them. Only CPS could set up a deliberately confrontational situation that leads to a man getting gunned down in front of his family, and then call it 'acting in the best interests of the children'."
These are my personal opinions only. They are not legal, medical, or financial advice.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby WhiteHaven » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:03 pm

You have a point but I see it as my duty. I wouldn't go out trying to be killed.They attack my family they better be prepared for what happens...simple. Knowing the government they would just burn us out like they did the Branch Davidians.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby monkette31 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:44 am

I like the camper idea.
I'm not a lawyer but will try and help you any way i can. My postings may seem harsh but they all stem from personal experience with DCFS. I am not a victim and take responsibility for my part in my life, but I will always help ANYONE learn about the corrupt sick system.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby Eljay » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:00 am

Wow... with family like that, who needs enemies?
Advice & opinions provided are no substitute for genuine legal assistance. Laws & rules vary by state/jurisdiction so do your homework and get
an education in CPS laws, rules & practices so that you can FIGHT for your children's rights. I am not a lawyer. Your mileage may vary.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby Daruma » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:19 am

Please don't think I'm defending the parents. It's just that CPS knew the dad could be violent, yet they went about this in the most in-your-face, confrontational way possible. If the children had been in imminent danger, it might have been justified, but they weren't. CPS provoked a showdown when there was no need for one. That's what's so messed up about this story.
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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby WhiteHaven » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:59 am

Eljay wrote:Wow... with family like that, who needs enemies?


Yeah no kidding.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby juliemco4u » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:41 am

well your rv idea seems great however we tried moving to illinois to start over ca came extradited them back using and i have proof the indian welfare act they know their not indian but got the fathers conveniately turned around

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby juliemco4u » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:43 am

i have two great suggesstions only mere if we can which i found most of where all their funds come from mostly from grocery stores dept stores general public probably little old people who think their doing good and somehow make it public go door to door or mail everyone worldwide about the schools funds where there really going and that is to aid in kidnapping of our kids and we need to somehow get all funds taken from them this i believe is the heart of this whole problem and how we may be able to solve it.and i have a ghost report i somehow managed to find that has a complete list showing the schools and cps and funding are all involved together two iam very soon going to b printing out my own sweatshirt with my childs pictures on them stating cps has kidnapped my children i guarantee a legacy will follow if anyone would like to see the report or speak to me about the funds thing email me thank you.
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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby KDus » Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:41 pm

I tried running and hiding.
Every agency involved can and will lie to get you.
I was a fool and brought the kids back on advice from an attorney.
My rights to my baby were terminated on Monday, even though the baby was never in my care and never in danger. CA took the baby from grandparents in UT.
The baby was born several months into the case.
There really are only 2 options: Resist until you die, or grovel and roll the dice.
Once a red flag goes up, the other choices disappear.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby noroses4u2c » Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:27 am

It depends on where your loyalties lie. For most attorneys, their loyalty is to the system, not necessarily on what is just and right.
My child was abducted by the government. They demanded a ransom (the case plan). I paid the ransom and my child was kept anyway. It isn't much different from stranger abduction except that the government uses its power to make the abduction legal and unpunishable.

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Re: Why let them take your kids?

Postby Sarah79 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:16 am

This is sick.....where is the end to all this.....is that what we have to do now run with our kids or go out fighting? God in heaven....see and take action on our behalf....this is just as bad as the holocaust yet everyone still raves what a wonderful country we live in! I still hear people saying "we live in a free country!" "WHAT!""" Ignorant! The more people go on with their eyes wide shut the more this is pkaying into the hands of the enemy.


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