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Bush Bashing

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:41 pm
by mousey
Bush professes to be a Christian. He belongs to Skull and Bones a satanic illuminati group at Yale. How can one be a Christian and belong to such a group.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:31 am
by Frustrated
Anyone can become a Wolf in a Sheep's Clothing, or is that another way around?

They can pretend to claim all they can be, and something they are not. It is called a Fake.

In fact the Verichip Card being created by HomeLand Security, will be distributed in 2008, and you guessed it, the symbol of the Illumaniti on that Card. :roll: All Bush's idea and his cronies.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:07 pm
by mousey
What I don't get, is why Christians continue to support Bush. I do know what my pastor would say to anyone in the congregation that belonged to an illuminati Skull and Bones organization. You can't serve two masters. Therefore, Bush's profession of being a Christian can't stand if Bush is also serving satan.
Any true Christian ought to be able to see that.

Christianity is not merely about good works. It is about where our loyality lies. Mine lies with Jesus Christ. Child Protective Services is bad, but the spiritual apostacy that lies behind it is even worse. It is a lie, that Child Protective Services is trying to protect abused children, but everyone falls for that. Child Protective Services is about taking power away from us as individuals, about taking away our freedoms under the constitution, and it is about indoctrinating our children to conform to their new world order.

It is a spiritual thing. Child abuse is a spiritual thing, CPS is a spiritual thing.

People need to wake up and know that voting for a third party candidate is not a wasted vote. The window of opportunity to stop this slide into facism is closing fast and we need to work fast.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:45 pm
by RKeyser
mousey, does this mean you would support someone like Clinton?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:27 pm
by mousey
No I would not support Clinton, I have never supported Clinton. There really isn't a dimes worth of difference between the Republicans and Democrats. Clinton is every bit as corrupt as Bush. I am not partial because Clinton is an illuminati too. Bill Clinton is a member of the CFR, the Bilderbergs, the Masons and the Tri-lateral Commission. Dick Cheney is a CFR. John Kerry is a Skull and Bonesman and a distant relative of Bush. The Federal Reserve System is not a government agency, it is a private bank cartel. It prints fiat money. And most politicians, world leaders, etc. are puppets of the elite bankers, so no it really doesn't make any difference.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:04 am
by scarfyrre
Bush is too stupid to be a Satanist.

Clinton may not of been a great person, but I thought he was a decent president. No one can give every American what they want, and that goes for all leaders.

And honestly, please do some research by scholars and not consipiracy theorists. Where one can show actual, physical proof of something, the other does nothing but make wild claims in hopes of no one noticing they're talking out their behinds.

I posted some information that isn't just wild ramblings on the website section.

I never mean to insult people, but it frightens me when those that blindly follow those that spread ignorance. We are all obviously able to believe what we want, but when there is just ignorant information being spread to control people, I try to stop it. Just like how I try to stop the misinformation the public has about CPS.

I'd still like to know that facts as to why S&B, Masons, Shriners, and all those other organizations are Satanists. Again I ask if you know what a Satanist is. Pagans are not Satanists and we sure as heck don't worship some made up trinity. And as for facts I mean written documents from the time period, not some conspiracy "expert's" random referencing from other conspiratists.

And again I say that this is America where we can practice any religion freely. ANY. Just as I hold my other rights dear, I would also fight for you and yours to believe what you wish. Start spewing that babble at my child, though, and there will be trouble. I don't condone hatred and ignorance from any religious affilation.

I've realized I've been too negative lately and not at all like I usually carry myself. I've lost my focus of love and understanding. I've lost my focus of tolerance and acceptance of others. Although I cannot abide by psuedo-facts, I have to remember it's everyone's right to believe as they wish AFTER they've heard all sides. I never, ever wish to change someone's core beliefs, but I find it scary when I find a blind believer.

Hitler made the Germans help him in his evil by doing that. So have those in the Middle East. I'm not going to live in worlds like that, and although it sounds like I may be fighting against your core beliefs of Christianity (Jesus is a man I admire very much), I will fight against what I perceive as ignorance toward the truth. One of the quotes in the other board was outright wrong (about pyramids having three sides and what they were for). To anyone with an inkling of history and architectural knowledge, that should be a warning flag.

I'm rambling, and I'll probably repeat this in my blog. I think it's so important to have faith in something that makes one feel love, I just flip when I read such inaccurate hatred coming from someone I sense has a beautiful heart. And I mean not hatred on purpose, but in the sense of being vulnerable right now and looking for comfort from someone preaching hate. Does that make sense? Eesh, I have a headache.

Peace.

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:24 pm
by RKeyser
scarfyrre says:
"I don't condone hatred and ignorance from any religious affilation."

"Pagans are not Satanists and we sure as heck don't worship some made up trinity."

A "made up trinity" that is a statement of hatred, I ain't gonna say nothing nasty or mean to you about this, I just want to say practice what you preach please. Practice of non hate also means not saying The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is "made up"

now my opinion of Bush vs Clinton,,, Bush is more of a man and more of someone who is taking part than Clinton ever did,, the biggest thing Clinton ever did was let little boys know that women are only worth having a place to put his cuban cigars!
Also ALL the positive things that happened when Clinton was in office was done because his WIFE did it, and I would rather drop dead than to even vote for her,,,, all of yaw that hate Bush so bad,, think about what we would have had if Kerry had become pres..

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 2:57 pm
by Bob_Lynn
RKeyser wrote:all of yaw that hate Bush so bad,, think about what we would have had if Kerry had become pres..


I don't know what we would have had if someone other than Bush was President, I only know what we have because Bush is President.

1. An endless illegal war in Iraq that's sucking us to the tune of an $8 trillion deficit and heading toward $9 trillion, in the name of terrorism.

2. A continued erosion of rights guaranteed under the Constitution in the name of terrorism (e.g. the BS Patriot Act).

3. Destructive thinking such as "outsourcing is good for America" that adversely affects all citizens except the richest (e.g. Bush and his criminal buddies, including his corporate buddies).

4. Gas prices through the roof.

5. The continued support of CAPTA (guaranteed funding to CPS for stealing children from families).

6. Lies, lies and more lies.

7. etc.

PS - I don't care about Clinton and Kerry (I wasn't fond of those 2 self-serving types either), they're water under the bridge, this is now and this is all under Bush's watch.

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:33 am
by RKeyser
they are not water under the bridge, if they were then Kerry would not be able to continue Bush bashing in the media, I wish you could see the good that has come out of this as well, not that I am saying I agree with Bush, and I feel it's LONG OVER DUE for our men and women to get out if Iraq, and I have to agree that no one can convence me that our missed up government can't do something about these gas prices, it's killing the little people who are the back bone of our country, but to say Bush is to blame for it all,,,, come on now ,,, get real,,

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:31 am
by Bob_Lynn
I am real, I'm not saying Bush is to blame for it all, I am saying Bush is to blame for a great deal of the damage done to America, Americans and others and whatever is his responsibility, full or partial, is already well over the top.

I'm sorry, please explain what good has come of Bush being President. I just don't see any, at least nothing that overrides the awful.

Bush is partially controlled by or in collusion with other criminals such as Cheney and Rove and corporate interest, so there's plenty of blame to go around, but none of these are President, remember "the buck stops here"?

In case you're not aware, the Bush family has a long history of alliances and partnerships with some of the biggest enemies of America and the world. You can start by researching how grandpa Bush had a partnership with a bunch of leading Nazis before and after the US declared war on Nazi Germany. Then continue with papa Bush's partnership with the Saudis and the bin Laden family.

(note, this is purely a discussion and not meant to be confrontational)

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:13 pm
by scarfyrre
No, I'm not talking about the Catholic version of the Trinity, but the quote in the other post about Satan worshiping Pagans who use the pyramid for the Satanic trinity of whatever was posted.

I have no hatred for anyone. My only goal in life is to educate, bring peace, and change bigotry. I never hate or dislike a person for what they believe, but if I can try to show the other side of the coin so that person can make an educated decision, then I'm happy. I never want to change faith or beliefs, because one can be a Christian without screaming hatred, but if someone is parroting untruths that are proven to be historically incorrect (including any Bible related boo-boos), I can't let ignorance continue.

Without going into detail, I know a lot about the paranormal, religious practices pertaining to the paranormal, paganism, witchcraft, Wicca, Satanism, ghosts...LOL, I think you get the picture. It's just like I could tell you anything you wanted to know about Queen Elizabeth I, Anne Boleyn, "Bloody" Mary, etc, etc. A subject comes up, and I make darn sure I research an answer before replying, and I happen to be a member of TAPS' board and my own group, so I've had to learn about all that stuff to disprove it.

Anyhoo...

I don't hate anyone. Well, except some girl from high school named Margie, but that's about it. All I want in the world, from everyone being it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Pagan, is tolerance and understanding of other's beliefs. History has already shown things aren't working as is and for centuries. Maybe it's time for the hippie way. :)

Bush is...stupid. Clinton, although a bit of a randy guy, was a Rhodes Scholar. Our quality of life was better under Clinton, whereas we've been hurting under Bush. Bush started another Vietnam, and now our men are stuck there because he and his admin messed up.

Between Bush's administration and CPS, I'm afraid of my government.

Casuality count as of today: 2,320 This number does not include civilians, mostly women and children, murdered by all sides.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:43 am
by RKeyser
matter of your opinion

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:44 am
by RKeyser
Clinton was an idiot who's only interest was finding places for his cigars

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:26 am
by Dan Sullivan
Bush is an idiot who thinks being president means following the advice of the richest people in the United States who want to make themselves and their friends richer at the expense of the American people.

The Bush presidency will affect this country for far longer and far worse than Katrina or any other natural disaster ever could.

And didn't he handle Katrina well?

How many trailers are still empty?

How many houses had blue tarps put on the roofs for $2,500 when a complete new roof was considerably less expensive?

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:27 am
by scarfyrre
RKeyser wrote:matter of your opinion


No, not so much opinion as looking at the numbers. Clinton had us in the black, Bush had us back in debt within about a year, I think.

Who does Bush make tax cuts for? Not us middle-class people.

Bush admin announced a whole 21,000 new jobs in the country for the month of February. Prez Clinton's admin averaged 236,00 per month during is 96 months of presidency. Hmmm, 21k or 236k per month?

Iraq is another Vietnam. Why are we there? First we were told it was to get the terrorists that plane bombed the WTC. Then it was weapons of mass destruction, which was an outright lie. Then it was to free the people of Iraq.

Free them? Sure, by killing them. No hard numbers exist, but estimates say between 5,000-10,000 Iraqi non-combatants have been killed by American fire. That number includes children.

Yeppers, that's free, all right.

Was Clinton perfect? Pfft, no. Neither was Reagan, who is worshipped and probably had Alzheimers during his second half term (and outright lied to our faces about Iran-Contra), Kennedy, FDR, Lincoln, Washington, or any of the other great statesmen. No one is perfect, and no one can please everyone, but when my government starts killing my countrymen for outright lies, begins taking bits of freedom our ancestors died for, then I'm gonna think Bush is an idiot and untrustworthy.

Numbers and history do not lie, and I would personally rather have a prez in office getting some lovin' than a prez killing innocent people and lying about it. And at least Gore didn't shoot anyone.

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:38 am
by Dan Sullivan
scarfyrre wrote:
RKeyser wrote:matter of your opinion


No, not so much opinion as looking at the numbers. Clinton had us in the black,


We were in the black because Clinton cut the military among other things.

And there was the dot com boom that he had nothing to do with.

Dan

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:06 am
by Bob_Lynn
scarfyrre wrote:No hard numbers exist, but estimates say between 5,000-10,000 Iraqi non-combatants have been killed by American fire. That number includes children.


I read a scientific analysis by an expert about a year ago that estimated at least 100,000 dead, either directly or indirectly from the affects of the Iraqi war. So I guess you can put a nice spin on how you define that these people (men, women and children) are now "free".

I'll say it again, Bush needs to be IMPEACHED and tried for HIGH TREASON and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. I haven't decided who's worse, Saddam Hussein or Bush but as I see it, Saddam never had the international clout that Bush has.

Let's also never forget that Cheney wanted to make exceptions to restrictions on torture by CIA operatives and if I'm not mistaken, Bush supported him on it. At least the Senate stood up and showed there are human beings among them when they voted 97-3 to ban all forms of torture.

These are the scum in power in America, no wonder we have government workers stealing children with virtual impunity and peddling their flesh for a living.

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:22 pm
by Bob_Lynn

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:03 pm
by mousey
scarfyrre..if you want to educate yourself then you should read the Bible...human knowledge is not the same as wisdom and only wisdom comes from God. Einsteim is but a child when compared to God.
After being confronted, Bush admitted to being a member of Skull and Bones, and when someone dresses up in a black robe and does alsort of perverted sexual acts and lies in a coffin, I consider that person to be more than just mentally deranged, but involved in something demonic.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:39 pm
by scarfyrre
They lie in a coffin and rattle of the names of the women they've slept with. That's it. Nothing demonic.

I've read the Bible and found it an interesting book. It may or may not be the word of God, but it's been changed by man for so many thousands of years, I doubt it's still the same book He wanted.

I suggest you find some college level articles that are not anti-Bible, but have studied the text and know the history of the books chosen, how it was interpreted over the years, and how comittees chose wich books would be in the Bible. There could be hundreds of missing books out there that is considered the word of God but not good enough for the Bible the *man* is writing.

I've been to college, and I plan on getting my masters in Medieval studies, and eventually my Phd in the same. You don't think ancient religion and the Bible has been brough up?

Give it up, hon. The Bible is not a word for word text to live one's life, but rather some wonderful parables and great lessons from a man named Jesus. I will NEVER believe as you do. I am a pagan and proud of it. I would not be a part of a religion that still kills in the name of their God, or screams hatred at somone not of their beliefs. I prefer to live in peace and love and with harmony of all living things.

I'm happy you're happy with your divine center right now. Unlike Christians, I don't try to get others over to the 'team'. :) Just remember what I said: It's one thing to follow someone blindly, as he can lead you to danger, but it's another to follow someone with the knowledge of whether he's right or not. What I follow is in my heart, almost a message from the God and Goddess, and that is good enough for me.

So, there ya go, now you know my religion. Do try to be polite when the 'You will burn in hell' post hits. K? Thanks.

Bless you, Mousey. I feel a lot of confusion in you, but also the potential of great love. With your passion, you will go far, just research your own words first. I think family law would be a perfect career choice....

Oh welly, peace and love be with you.


Blessed be, mousey.

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:51 am
by good dad
Just remember what I said: It's one thing to follow someone blindly, as he can lead you to danger,


This reminded me of Rev. Jim Jones and the People's Temple mass suicides...

Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect - Dr. Robert M. Bowman

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:05 am
by Bob_Lynn
Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006

The former head of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter has gone public to say that the official version of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory and his main suspect for the architect of the attack is Vice President Dick Cheney.

Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security.

Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it.

In an interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman (pictured below) stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack.

Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack.

"The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD....that they didn't they didn't know what was real and what was part of the exercise," said Bowman

"I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they're the ones that should be the object of investigation."

Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, "If I had to narrow it down to one person....I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney."

Bowman said that privately his military fighter pilot peers and colleagues did not disagree with his sentiments about the real story behind 9/11.

Bowman agreed that the US was in danger of slipping into a dictatorship and stated, "I think there's been nothing closer to fascism than what we've seen lately from this government."

Bowman slammed the Patriot Act as having, "Done more to destroy the rights of Americans than all of our enemies combined."

Bowman trashed the 9/11 Commission as a politically motivated cover-up with abounding conflicts of interest, charging, "The 9/11 Commission omitted anything that might be the least bit suspicious or embarrassing or in any way detract from the official conspiracy so it was a total whitewash."

"There needs to be a true investigation, not the kind of sham investigations we have had with the 9/11 omission and all the rest of that junk," said Bowman.

Asked if the perpetrators of 9/11 were preparing to stage another false-flag attack to reinvigorate their agenda Bowman agreed that, "I can see that and I hope they can't pull it off, I hope they are prevented from pulling it off but I know darn good and well they'd like to have another one."

A mainstay of the attack pieces against Charlie Sheen have been that he is not credible enough to speak on the topic of 9/11. These charges are ridiculed by the fact that Sheen is an expert on 9/11 who spends hours a day meticulously researching the topic, something that the attack dogs have failed to do, aiming their comments solely at Sheen's personal life and ignoring his invitation to challenge him on the facts.

In addition, from the very start we have put forth eminently credible individuals only for them to be ignored by the establishment media. Physics Professors, former White House advisors and CIA analysts, the father of Reaganomics, German Defense Ministers and Bush's former Secretary of the Treasury, have all gone public on 9/11 but have been uniformly ignored by the majority of the establishment press.

Will Robert Bowman also be blackballed as the mainstream continue to misrepresent the 9/11 truth movement as an occupation of the fringe minority?

Bowman is currently running for Congress in Florida's 15th District.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ap ... uspect.htm

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:43 am
by firemonkey
06/02/06

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:52 am
by mousey
how could President Bush freely use such terrible weaponry, with a killing half-life of 4.5 billion years, in the face of powerful enemies Russia and China? Surely, one or both of these opponents would move to prevent America from polluting up to one-quarter of the surface of the world with uranium poisoning?

This news story from long ago provides the answer: Russia's Putin talked with President Bush only days after the 9/11 attacks, and agreed with one another that President Bush could use nuclear weaponry against helpless Afghanistan, including the use of D.U. "nuclear mines, shells, and other nuclear ammunition suited to commando warfare"!

Let us review this startling story:

NEWS BRIEF: "Tactical nuclear weapons deployed: US and Russia Strike Reciprocal Deal on Tactical Nuclear Weapons Deployment Against Afghanistan and Chechnya", 6 October 2001, DEBKAfile

"DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report that Presidents George W. Bush and Vladimir Putin, in a single 70-minuted conversation on September 23, eleven days after the terrorist assaults in New York and Washington, agreed on the deployment of tactical weapons ... Putin gave the nod for US forces poised in Central Asia to jump into Afghanistan to be armed with tactical nuclear weapons, such as small neutron bombs, which emit strong radiation, nuclear mines, shells, and other nuclear ammunition suited to commando warfare in mountainous terrain. In return, Bush assented to Russia deploying tactical nuclear weapons units around Chechnya after Moscow’s ultimatum to the rebels, some of whom are backed by Osama Bin Laden, to surrender, went by without response ... This is an epic shift in the global balance of strength." [Emphasis added]

Since we know that President Bush has used massive amounts of Depleted Uranium munitions in Afghanistan -- and later, Iraq -- does this mean that Russia has been using D.U. weaponry against Chechnyan rebels? None of the world's news services has carried this story, but that should not surprise anyone!

This unlikely cooperation between Russia and America on this subject of utilizing nuclear mines, shells and other nuclear ammunition surely fulfills one of the most startling prophecies in the whole Bible. Listen:

"Also the ten horns that you observed are ten rulers (kings) who have as yet received no royal dominion, but together they are to receive power and authority as rulers for a single hour, along with the beast. These have one common policy (opinion, purpose) and they deliver their power and authority to the beast." [Revelation 17:12-13; Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]

This Scripture sets the stage for the fulfillment of the next blockbuster.

"For God has put it into their hearts [final 10 kings of verse 13] to carry out His own purpose by acting in harmony in surrendering their royal power and authority to the beast ..." (Revelation 17:17; Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:22 am
by mousey
scarfyrre says: They lie in a coffin and rattle of the names of the women they've slept with. That's it. Nothing demonic.

The trouble with that is, Bush publicly proclaims that he is a Christian. In other words, if someone is going to belong to a cemonic organization, DON'T CLAIM TO BE A CHRISTIAN, BECAUSE ANYONE DOING SUCH A THING IS NOT
It is impossible to be a Born again Christian and participate in such an organization as skull and bones. If someone wants to shun God and give their time to demonic organizations, God has given all people free will to love Him or reject Him. However, President Bush as a public figure as proclaimed to be a born again Christian. It can't be.

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one and love the other or else he will hold to the one and despise the other.


Satan has his own kingdom, the kingdom of this world. Jesus has His kingdom, Matt. 18 :36 My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight that I should not be delivered to the Jews: But now is my kingdom not from hence. One cannot serve Satan and God at the same time.

So if Bush is a skull and bones member and claims to be a Christian, that should tell you something about him right from the start. I never trust some one that lies, and if that person lies about something like that, what else will they lie about.