It takes a family to raise a child not the community

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It takes a family to raise a child not the community

Postby mousey » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:52 pm

Hillary Clinton is wrong.
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Re: It takes a family to raise a child not the community

Postby Dan Sullivan » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:06 pm

mousey wrote:Hillary Clinton is wrong.


I believe she got her opinion from Mao's Little Red Book.

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Postby Bob_Lynn » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:47 pm

You mean Chelsea wasn't raised by a village in Arkansas?

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Postby scarfyrre » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:19 am

When I was a little girl back in the stone age, our whole neighborhood raised us. Other parents watched other's kids, broke up arguments, walked a group to school, did the PTA thing, and all that good stuff. I was raised as much by my friend Chrissy's family as I was my own.

Back in that day the teacher would stay late, without demanding over-time, if the parent was running behind. We could go to teachers and other parents for help with anything, and we knew we'd get the help we needed.

Our neighborhood was a village, so to speak, and that was really nice. The way things have become in neighborhoods and families really troubles me. We all live in these little pods without any respect to get to know our neighbors. Our villages are gone.

I agree, in certain ways, with what Hillary was trying to say. I take it as having to stop being selfish and self-centered and become the village we once were. In Africa and South America, the villages raise all the children by helping with the task. She doesn't mean that the government should raise our kids, but that we as a community should come together again and be a village.

There is not one neighbor that would even blink if they saw my son speaking to a stranger in our cul de sac. It's my responsibility to raise him, but the village (or community) must start banning together to keep things safe and cozy.

Just to give you an idea: neighbors on my right are new, but I can't even get them to say hello; neighbors on left work a lot, but other than waving when we drive away, there is no interaction; neighbors across from them waves and that's it; neighbors across from me are rarely, if ever, outside their house, but the few times I've talked they are very nice; next to them is a couple with two college age daughters that do the waving thing. That's it. Do you think any of those people would comfort my son if he fell and skinned his knee? Pffft.

Personally, I want the village back. I want a sense of community again. We've retreated into our homes and have allowed predators and CPS to wander freely gathering our children away from us.

I agree with Hillary. I'm a Liberal Democrat. Shoot me. But I am never afraid of helpiing a chid in distress, or a family that is having a hard time, or even opening my home to someone in need. I have to be my own damn village, but I wasn't put here to be a selfish yuppie. I live by the creed, I live by love, and I live by being as generous as I can. If that is from Tao's book, then so be it. But no one will want in my village.

Let the dissecting begin.

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Postby Bob_Lynn » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:35 am

There's a huge difference between a village actually raising a child in a communal context and the belief that it takes a village to raise a child. I vehemently disagree with Hillary Clinton and her theory, if put to practice would put an end to the human family and humanity itself.

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Postby scarfyrre » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:57 am

Yep, she's the anti-Christ.

I'm about to leave town to see my husband and find some ghosts, but have any one of you actually read the book? Cover to cover read it? Or do you condemn it because it's Hillary?

Please, do tell.

And try not to be too happy, but my big mouth won't be back here until Sunday night. :wink:

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Postby Dan Sullivan » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:01 am

scarfyrre wrote:Yep, she's the anti-Christ.

I'm about to leave town to see my husband and find some ghosts, but have any one of you actually read the book? Cover to cover read it? Or do you condemn it because it's Hillary?


You're referring to Mao's Little Red Book, of course.

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Postby scarfyrre » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:25 am

This? http://hinkyimport.com/ci0018.html

Nah. The anti-Christ's book. Hillary. I believe I will re-read it this weekend in between beach runs and ghost hunting. :)

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Postby Dan Sullivan » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:31 am

scarfyrre wrote:This? http://hinkyimport.com/ci0018.html

Nah. The anti-Christ's book. Hillary. I believe I will re-read it this weekend in between beach runs and ghost hunting. :)


The books are interchangeable.

In fact, if Mao was alive he would have sued for plagarism, for sure!!!

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Postby Greegor » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:11 pm

I find it interesting that for most of the last 5 years
I haven't seen either political party as being particularly
helpful when it comes to putting CPS power in check.

The bill which is working it's way through the statehouses
in Arizona is sponsored by a bunch of Republicans and
would raise the standard of proof and require CPS to
give people a few miranda like warnings.

I have said for a long time that the Ideology of
the two major parties makes it very likely that
Dems would never curb Social Services abuses.

Ideologically Republicans should have been the
political party to really tear into the CPS problem.
They're much more anti-socialist idealogically
than the Democrats (CWA is the caseworkers union).

Hillaries "village" book was in fact not written by
her but a "ghost writer". Scar could have done
some ghost hunting just by checking that out!

I understand what Scar said about the old days
when neighbors all looked out for each other, but
people have changed in ways that I don't
think Hillary or anybody can change.

People have become somewhat paranoid about
their neighbors, and recent warnings about
sex offenders don't help matters any.

Roaming kids nowadays are CPS fodder for CPS
or criminal NEGLECT and Failure To Protect.

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Postby mousey » Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:36 pm

When I refer to it takes a village to raise a child, we are talking about one world government, big brother, not the neighbors. What did you think CPS was, it is big brother, Hilliary's idea of a village not the back yard neighbor or good teacher.
I don't know when people are going to get that the rich liberals are not our friends.
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