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PRO SE INFORMATION/LAWYERDUDE SITE/excellent advice

Postby Dazeemay » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:07 pm

Under Family Court Hearing-The Constitutional Defense you will in #10 find out about a pro se brief if judge says you are not going according to procedure.

http://www.life-vs-cps.com/


Here is a site called Pro Se Advantage.

http://home.earthlink.net/~psadvantage/index.html

Helping Pro Se Ligiants To Help Themselves

http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/programs/cf ... se%20help'

American Pro Se Association

http://www.legalhelp.org/

Pro Se Law Center

http://www.pro-selaw.org/pro-selaw/orgs.asp

Sui Juris

http://www.avoiceforchildren.com/books/suijuris.html
Last edited by Dazeemay on Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:51 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom

To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).

Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour

"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1

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Postby Greegor » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:49 pm

What exactly is the difference between Sui Juris and Pro Se?
They seem to be similar in many ways, but I understand there
are some important differences.

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Postby fightingfor3 » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:01 pm

Pro Se means that you represent yourself, and unless you have an out of body experience is impossible. Sui Juris means you are yourself. I am not sure how recognized or accepted the Sui Juris term is in courts.

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Postby Dazeemay » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:16 pm

Sui Juris meaning by Pamela Gaston

http://www.sierratimes.com/cgi-bin/ikon ... 9&topic=35

SUI JURIS; THE TRUTH IN THE RECORD

By Pamela Gaston

Sui Juris is the book teaching People how to defend themselves in today's courtrooms without attorneys. Sui Juris is a concept; literally meaning "in my own jurisdiction", and explains in plain language what your rights are, how they are being taken from you, and how you can get them back in court.

Sui Juris exposes the systemic judicial corruption and reveals a powerful Way to bring forth remedy. The KEY is exercising your God given Inherent Rights and restoring the Spirit of Truth in America.

Sui Juris, teaches you how to make the Truth in the Record; Sui Juris lets you Access the Courts, simply and quickly by writing and filing your own legal papers, get your own discovery and file counter charges for the abuse you have endured if you have been rendered by the corrupted court system in America today.

We have trusted public officials, judiciary, media and corporations, allowing them to manipulate every aspect of our society with complete unaccountability. Lay people turn to greedy bar member attorneys when they are afraid, only to be compromised into losing everything they have in the corrupted courtroom process. Usually their own attorneys and the rest of the courtroom players are all working against them for their own profit. The People do not realize this until they have been impoverished and destroyed.

Sui Juris shows that a REAL court is simply a place to make a Public Record, and it belongs to us. The People own the courthouse, the Record, the titles, the properties, the children.

We have allowed the corruption of Lawful process and wickedness now rules in high places. The legislature controlled by special money interests and corporate parties, set up and dominates the private incorporated business called the "STATE OF OREGON" or any state while upholding a facade with fronts that this is the government "of the People". IT IS NOT.

Such a STATE is proceeding under a false "voluntary" waiver that you are not a "people" but you are a "legal person"; and in that OFFICE OF PERSON you agreed that the STATE owns all resources including your children, your home, your cars, your property, your businesses, everything, taxed and licensed and assessed, and that you are beholden to administrative rules of the corporate state. Ever since the civil war abolished "involuntary servitude" (slavery), the corporate bankers and government had to devise ways to keep the People as SLAVES to their corporate interests.

The shadow rulers set about to make people "agree" to these compelled contracts on Sovereigns, to get people to unknowingly "'volunteer" their rights to protect themselves and their property from such theft and conversion. In the same way now, the federal government takes the money then "gives" some back with conditions and compelled contracts on the states.

EVERYTHING THAT IS TAKEN FROM YOU IS TAKEN IN A COURTROOM. Kings and Presidents, go before judges, and that is where the changes happen in restoring or losing our freedom.

In order to envision and realize the concept of FREEDOM, we have to know what it means to exercise our Inherent, God Given, un-a-lien-able, Constitutionally protected rights. We have to know what these are and what it feels like to defend these rights with all our spirit and strength.

Sui Juris literally means "in my own jurisdiction". Sui Juris lets you express what is REAL and TRUE in a courtroom.

The people have forgotten what it means to be Sovereigns, and joint tenants in the sovereignty at the county and state level, joined with 49 other Republics. When the Constitution was ratified, true Sovereignty under God for the common man was the seed planted that will bear fruit now.

The common man did not have to be in a court. Real courts are about real crimes, not like now where poor and innocent persons are rendered in a courtroom. In the beginning priests, bankers, corporations and special interests went into court to fight over their money. Now the judicial system has become a money grubbing industry to rob the people at taxpayer expense.

Sui Juris allows the layman to exercise sovereignty and stand against any who would seize his rights, his children, his property, his family, his business, his estate, his liberty or his freedom. Sui Juris takes the profit incentive out of the courtroom. Imposing a lawyer on your back and in your pocketbook insures their control and your impoverishment. Since when is a lawyer worth up to $300/hour?

Our constitutional protections have eroded. We must ACT in our Lawful authority NOW and reclaim the courtroom for justice. We must restore accountability and a standard of Law and Constitutional contract/oath with real penalties of prosecution for violations of the Public Trust by our government.

The information in Sui Juris will bring the People up to speed in all fifty states, as well as other countries, since human rights are universal, and Gods Children are the same in every Sovereign homeland. The GREED FACTOR has been in control far too long. We must go into court and insist on stating the facts regarding abusers crimes, naming names and forcing the criminals who are in our lawful offices to come out into the light.

GET THIS BOOK - LEARN THE MEANING OF SUI JURIS - MAKE SUI JURIS A HOUSEHOLD WORD IN AMERICA - It means your flesh and blood entity, your family body, your human rights and liberties, your posterity - your freedom - and the knowledge to exercise these and protect yourself in a courtroom.

People reading Sui Juris report whole new worlds open for them and that this information has changed their lives. Fear is generated in the courtroom by not understanding what is going on around you, being kept in the dark. Sui Juris outlines the corrupted process being used against you, so that you can "stand" through it and get your facts in to the record, by filing your own affidavits and aggressively pleading your own case in court. You are your own best advocate.

Once enough of us realize the gravity of the danger we face and act wisely regarding the corporate takeover of our lives, we can restore respect for the Spirit of Truth, and Justice and renew the Spirit of America.

You can purchase a single copy of Sui Juris for only $17 and $3 for shipping and handling. Sui Juris contains almost 200 pages of life saving information and legal documents that can be used for a format to write your own legal papers and affidavits in court. Compare this with paying a lawyer up to $150-$300/hour to sacrifice your well-being for his own enrichment and self-interest.

Sui Juris must reach the people now. To make this possible I offer a box of 20 books for the special wholesale price of $200 including shipping. That is $10/book to your door. Let us get the word out and enlighten the people.

To order Sui Juris please contact our distributor Michael Sieradzki, P.O. Box 3, Merlin, Oregon 97532, Tel. 541-474-3890 or E-mail [email protected]
You can pay for Sui Juris by money order, check or pay pal.

Sui Juris should be in every home, library, school, university and prison. This book should be required reading for every sixth grader in school. Please help spread the word of Truth that there IS an answer to the Constitutional crisis and judicial corruption we face today and with SUI JURIS we can exercise remedy.


Please also go to http://www.avoiceforchildren.com for more information




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Pamela and Will Gaston, from Mt Angel, Oregon, founded 'A Voice For Children' in l997 to expose state abuse of families and children in Oregon. The Gaston's became advocates and learned how to defend themselves in a courtroom after Will Gaston's 7 year old daughter was removed from him unlawfully by the Oregon child services agency in l996.

Gaston's discovered that they were locked out from defending the child or themselves against an out of control state child agency and court system, where parents have no rights against the state to force the lawful return of their children. Gaston's discovered after firing four attorneys that the bar works for the state against the parents.

After five years of engaging the court system, the Gaston's have uncovered the insidious deceptions of the self-serving courtroom crowd. Their book SUI JURIS teaches you how to recognize insider deceptive schemes and use their own laws against them to protect your family and property rights without having to bankrupt yourself employing an expensive and useless lawyer.
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom

To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).

Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour

"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1

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Postby Dazeemay » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:53 pm

This looks to me like a good site. Check it out if you are going it on your own.


http://www.lawyerdude.netfirms.com/6025.html
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This is not legal advice;hopefully wisdom

To put it in simple terms…when the authorities ARE the perpetrators and the perpetrators ARE the authorities, there is no earthly justice or recourse, at the end of the day (unless the American people wake up).

Therefore, those who have achieved the highest levels of power seek to ‘enjoy’ the most grievous and extreme injustices. For many of those in the highest circles of power, the greatest statement of power is to perpetrate the greatest possible injustice…the savage, brutal traumatization and abuse of an innocent child.
http://themurkynews.blogspot.com/ MattTwoFour

"Ultimately, the law is only as good as the judge" --- D.X. Yue, 2005, in "law, reason and judicial fraud"
http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com/index.cgi?ctype=Page;site_id=1;objid=45;curloc=Site:1

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Postby Greegor » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:35 pm

My family has had some success with a hybrid representation.
My SO was Pro Se with counsel on standby for a 4 day TPR hearing.

We had gotten really sick of attorneys taking charge and
pretty much dictating how everything should go rather
than serving the client mother. They watered down every
motion to be basically useless, and refused to really
offer "vigorous representation".

In another 4 day hearing, my attorney was willing and
supported me as pro-se for the purposes of the
cross examination ONLY, and he assisted with handling
filings, paperwork and in court assistance to find
exhibits as needed.

These two "hybrid" forms of representation
both worked very well for us.

Being prepared, organized, well rested, and
able to speak up for yourself are all important.

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Postby Marina » Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:39 am

Individual States have information.

Here is one for Virginia --


Self- Represented Litigants in the Virginia Court System

http://www.courts.state.va.us/publicati ... report.pdf
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Pro Se notice and motions - the He case

Postby Marina » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:02 pm

The He case

http://www.parentalrightsandjustice.com ... nation.pdf



APPELLANTS’ MOTION AND NOTICE TO APPEAR PRO SE AND
MOTIONS FOR THE TENNESSEE SUPREME COURT TO ...

We, SHAO-QIANG {JACK} HE and wife, QIN (CASEY) LUO1 , the
appellants of this case, have decided to represent ourselves in remaining
proceedings of this case in the Tennessee Supreme Court. We request the Tennessee
Supreme Court to consider the following motions.

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Postby Marina » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:32 pm

.

http://www.utcourts.gov/courts/appell/f ... elfare.pdf

PRO SE GUIDE
CHILD WELFARE
APPEAL PROCEDURES

Basic information about filing an appeal to the
Utah Court of Appeals

page 19
6. RELEVANT DATES: The following dates are relevant to this appeal:
a) Date of removal(s):
b) Date of adjudication(s):
c) Date of disposition(s):
d) Date of permanency hearing(s):
e) Date of order(s) terminating Appellant’s parental rights or dismissing petitions to
terminate Appellant’s parental rights:
f) Date notice of appeal filed:
g) Any other dates relevant to this appeal:


STATEMENT AS TO HOW THE ISSUES AROSE AND HOW THEY WERE
PRESERVED FOR APPEAL:

Note: The issue statement should be concise in nature setting forth specific legal questions.
General conclusions, such as “the trial court erred” or “The trial court’s decision is not
supported by the law or the facts” is insufficient. Include legal authority that both support’s
Appellant’s case and authority contrary to Appellant’s case, if known:

a) Issue 1
Involves(circle all that apply)

personal jurisdiction;
subject matter jurisdiction;
sufficiency of evidence;
weight of evidence;
credibility of witness;
interpretation of evidence;
admissibility of evidence;
adequacy of findings;
application of law;
interpretation of law;
other

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